Gus Gamble Interview #1, 11/25/1974
Oh, I think I. Hung around the.
High school social work and. Yeah, I.
Just returned from. And I feel there.
Sam Schrager: Yeah, I think that I do. Yeah.
Gus Gamble: I got yeah.
Yeah.
And he would say so us so.
And yeah, I know we can read right through if we had.
To listen wild. Yeah.
Yeah. What about that.
Sam Schrager: What did he brag about?
Gus Gamble: He found the. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I of all the other guys like that. Yeah. Yeah.
What are you back to? My.
I asked the Prime minister about.
perhaps, and I didn't do anything, really, until we could see it. And, he. Yeah. About, you know, the glove and how, you know, I had no money. I mean, all right. The hell? Good, man. Yeah. About 50 or $0.75 today, though. Yeah. And he walks through, and that's why he didn't do as much. and today is, our average man.
We're doing an hour. Yeah, he he doesn't he is not nothing at all. And that is, another little hammer hand. we didn't have much use for him for a while because we thought he was the same. But he was. He was, he didn't pretend to do hard work, and he would drive teams somewhere in the field, and, I got a dollar a are.
But he had, he you get that though? His horses, they work and so on.
He knew that. Do you remember about him? leaving some jobs there? Yeah. You boys have been selling these guys?
Yeah. Yeah, that's the ad. I know the monologue. And I need is for parts. That's not mine anyway. How many divorces? All summer? And after the mayor and the dog goes, he'll go on. And it's probably not the year for them. And, so the the hollow throated back and and you days after them and. Hello Virginia.
We in dogs in the fall they'll hold my shame and we'll give them one away. Well I was trying to and he was here and and I didn't that didn't sit well with us at all. Yeah, yeah, we're having to hustle, feed and all. Don't live here.
Do you think he ate the dogs?
Yeah. Those stories in the egg.
Dogs. Yeah. And I think he did. And, he had some little shots from between. well, we have in between, sorry. And, the dairy, there was no deer. It had been, ten years later, they have the, Yeah. Started, deliver a big, large meal and, and they had, but this cross country in, in Delaware they call tumble.
It's a little quiver now, but it was trommel and, now the brothers were back in their cattle, and they, they go out to the Clearwater River and, in the summer, in the winter. And, he's alive. The two of them come out here in the summer. They have. They had a lot of. But this little problem is not good.
And they had the little one room shack. So, so later on the their had an old shack and and, no, no, no, don't even, he just called in through a window. Well, no, he, no, he was no good at all. But you some people kind of believe them. But those kids, the little ones, they were.
But we we knew better. We. It was just an old hidden gem, or we didn't like that.
And,
Sam Schrager: Yeah. Well, yeah.
Gus Gamble: Yes, I was, and I wasn't born, and.
I don't know.
Any stories about.
Yours.
About the King of the forest.
Yeah, yeah.
Sam Schrager: Did he say that he'd, That he'd ridden with Kit Carson?
Gus Gamble: Yes. Yeah. And he was supposed to show his children Carson a lot of things that he didn't know. So the the toy. Yes, yes. Kit Carson. No, he was, yes or no in the money? I never seen Carson. Carson shot the his dogs.
Sam Schrager: And then he disappeared about 19 three or he left.
Gus Gamble: Yeah. I didn't see the last time ever. So I, you know, I heard that he. I never saw him after that, but we met him on the road with him, and, 1 or 2 wouldn't have no idea when a really old, Well, they all, hack heck of this top of the hat. And he would go and control a lot of the area somewhere, and, he was, just out east of Moscow.
oh. Before I get, Cornwall even just, about four miles out past the the path, the golf course, the east of Moscow and then. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Who with all that golf course? Our buddy and I do some plays.
Virginia. Oh, the Moscow golf course.
Yeah, yeah. who owned it? Yeah, it, some of Lodge owns it.
Oh, the Elks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that.
Sam Schrager: So you met Wild Davey out out there?
Gus Gamble: Yeah, I was that was an association of the. Now the. Oh, no, this one from outside through. But the the mountain thing. But then after that. Yeah. Yeah I don't know I, we met and I'll be and my brothers after my old brother stopped and he some haywire off the fence a long ways and, wrapped around who he was from the.
Yeah. I, I hacked we just have a shovel when real with, hoop around it and, and it would stretch and, dance or just drop off the, the.
Because you got it all fixed anyway.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I think.
Interesting and even nothing now and, and, the, the whole weather having to wire up the fence so birds jumped up and birds before they. I don't know how you can have the wire that and, and shoot it all on and wrapped it tight. And I guess he got, his shot.
Sam Schrager: With. He. Did he have a wife then?
Gus Gamble: I suppose, too, I guess. But I didn't know that until that little, old ten years ago or so. But he had so many schools around the university, but she didn't know very much now, or she wouldn't have been, but she wrote this book. Kind of told name.
Sam Schrager: So how did he work again? How did he how did he.
Gus Gamble: Oh, a little short fella about, or five. This his short? Did you 20 pounds or more. This little fat fella.
You mean 120 pounds.
Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. But he was, and,
Sam Schrager: And he wore the buckskin. He wore buckskin. Did he.
Gus Gamble: yes, yes. He would. yes. In,
In.
His, regalia.
Absolutely looks like that.
Sam Schrager: That's another picture.
Gus Gamble: All we have is. Oh, yeah. He's, he looks bigger, and, he was. I used to have a pretty good sized man there, but it was deep. Probably not touching the ground.
Yeah, I've.
Seen it on a stump or something.
Sam Schrager: Oh, and then. And then one. What? What's his. What are you saying about the girl? That. That he wanted to tone his hair? Yeah.
Gus Gamble: Yeah, yeah. And same, you know, this is a neighbor was down to that girl out loud. and I don't think she was of age anyway. He was. And she was very quiet. She said half an hour, and I think her mother thought cooler. And so one of all, he as it was in the house, so he came in.
So then you know what? He he, poster. Wouldn't you like to comb my hair? I don't know this a place, though, is like that. And though, he says no, it's all it is, so. And, all of good long. I just wanted to cut my. Oh, would hold my hair. And, who is he? Never, never has this wire with you.
Just serious. But he'll follow those and not. And I know it never had their wife and never had the depression or maybe it's the walking game, or I'd try. And I suppose.
Sam Schrager: While they e sure sounds like.
Gus Gamble: It, it sounds interesting.
Sam Schrager: Their character. Oh, yeah.
Gus Gamble: I think, I yeah, well, I think I can stick that out so yeah.
If at all. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Sam Schrager: Well, according to this, his wife, wrote the books for him.
Gus Gamble: Probably. And maybe the.
Sam Schrager: Were there any other any other guy's characters around? And, like, I don't imagine they'd be like him, but were there any.
Gus Gamble: Other sort.
Sam Schrager: Of crazy guys around you all.
Gus Gamble: From.
But they were the ones. It was, what the ship was is.
This little man, he knows you, Pat Malone. Maybe he can tell you about Pat my home.
Oh, yeah. Some of those.
Stories.
yeah. I did not know that was there around that early.
Oh, no. He wasn't. No, no, I didn't know him till 1914 or so.
Oh, well, yeah, I am 139. I was going into, Elk River out was there, and though me and John did down.
In,
went down to Edgewater, you wouldn't find it in shock so long. Yeah, I've been set up that I'm not sure what it is. So it's this, town or. And so we, we go to in order to get to Moscow, you have to come to Poland and lay off where I live on. And, and finally hit the wall early on.
And then the next morning, because, I'm trained, and there's a lot of hellos on the way to Iowa for that, and I know who that is. Bovill. And then we would. Yeah, I thought of Pat's, shoulders and go on out to my homestead, grow a John, Baker's two or he bought. He is.
Sam Schrager: Where was the homestead?
Gus Gamble: out east, east of, Elk River. But there was no, until I got the railroad in. But the railroad did in, about four years, and they had started the mill out at, the fall of 1811, the fall of 1911. That started it up and have run it, pretty much throughout the winter.
Our brother John in on they started it and they, they, At Denver they named Clipper. But before that it was a strong.
And, so this all this helpful was that before then?
Sam Schrager: Who Trumbull was?
Gus Gamble: I know this old fella. Know this? Dave. Yes. The.
Sam Schrager: Oh, did you know Trumbull at all, old man? Trumbull?
Gus Gamble: didn't know the old man, but I knew the boys. The boys run a bunch of cattle, bring up the, North Fork in. Well, they've got the mill, and, b, dam in there now. Oh, that gave them digging.
And I read nothing up about that cattle range, but, you know, engaging Miller's book. I don't think he wrote that. That's something I never heard before.
Sam Schrager: What cattle ranches is now. Well, it.
Gus Gamble: Was up in Elk River some place wasn't, I guess. then you said they ran them there in the.
Sam Schrager: Trumbull Trumbull sons.
Gus Gamble: Yeah.
Yeah. Well, that was that. Yeah. That was the name of the place. Just a little store or something. Right. And so mine was up around that mill. They, the,
Older homes. That was the old, old, Bay clerk and, read all of the boys up from Nauvoo. Old hurry and, Yeah. And, how old?
Anyway, when I you Irish, you were Alberts. You they were just young followers, and they didn't mind.
And though. But I that were in there until of 19 1221 and I never even in place that the whole telegram came out. Smile on it and yeah, I yeah, I bought this, this, relinquishment. I and I don't oh they threw I have already homesteaded a piece of, Plummer and I do a lot of mountain by,
Yeah. Yeah. I don't have a brush patch, but it wasn't that had no value. I don't think I might have something now, but anyhow. But we just pulled up for $50 and paid 100 for it. Not just the $50 for his hand. that was that. So he had lost $50. It was $50 of his hundred. the I got one.
He, tied tied, he borrowed. It was about a fellow he knew from back, and I. So he, he, took, but he he thought that mine would be valuable to him. But he was he was that good. And anyway, so he turned to me, and he and I were good friends. And so he said, yeah, if you if you want a place where you get it and, and prove up on it, and I could have proved up in 14 months, 200 grand and say, that's what I intend to do, because there was a railroad in there then it had been in a couple of years.
Yes, they have freight. And then when I grew up, the Middle belt and, and the long out here and down the lowest and they had this big wooden build. It had Lewiston and then he had a big, a miller pot, but still and it's still there. yes.
Sam Schrager: Did you how did you and your brother homestead out there?
Gus Gamble: I said my brother bought a piece, but I, homesteaded, and I intended to stay there instead of not instead of, staying, south of that for,
For 14, 14 months.
I, first year, changed my mind. And then I would get you in in the winter and one day in there and, I'm, I had three years in, I then I could move up and, bring to, two men, the ramblers man. And, we were there. I mean, I'm the worst part of Boston.
that's another branch off of the of Moscow. And and we lived it north. I don't know, here. So we, I knew this old boy over there. you know, I was born, and I was told he thought he is old, and I didn't know I. I never came out in the winter time. It was throughout the summer.
And work didn't come back until back in the in the weather. And the first winter in there. The storm flies high as the ceiling. Yeah. The liar came out of my shack. Yeah. Had a breakthrough and and, we made it was 80 and, in the and had them and Elk River, which had been Trumbull buzzards, dozens of them doing all and then ended.
But by the time they started building the mill, I think. But in those days, I didn't have a damn, when they needed anything to put it in my timber home. But there was only about half timber. The rest that didn't burned off, burned up in 1910. And I, but what was on was pretty good. White pine.
And I held it. Yeah, I pulled up in 1915, and then I held on and paid the taxes all night. And, I would have to pay a fire tax. yes. Potlatch. I think somehow they'd, had,
Sam Schrager: But that land, that land wasn't very good for farming or not.
Gus Gamble: Was it down? No, it raised grass. It's good for grass. Have good. Have strawberry plants. But, no, you couldn't, you couldn't. I don't think they sent me now. But Timothy would go. Either that or not quite that I would tell his baby and all and, and, but they wouldn't laugh. You couldn't plant. They got it, didn't them?
Off to a dam. And, But I didn't intend to live. but I was, just messing around, and, I would pay, but, the, the taxes weren't very, very high speed. But, yeah, when you.
Got to that and and look, we've done some place. I guess Elizabeth had some, but,
Not all that. but, Yeah, I don't think the land is any any better now that it was in it. just a few years and, it, I don't.
Know that.
You could, But I.
Sam Schrager: Well, well, you're starting to tell me about Pat Malone out in that country.
Gus Gamble: Oh. Oh, yes. For a little, until we would go in and I, we would go in and it was our homestead. The time that the, was going up and so, so bad and we started to improve. oh. What about Potlatch I. Yes, there's Potlatch. We went to one and, but anyhow, we'll have to wait for our tree and him.
So we had them. That was not trainload, half a dozen of them. And, but they would have to or and some, some of it as a, as a booming little town. But, then as soon as they have the, the, the timber cut around the townsite and then they. Yeah,
Camp. right. Railroad out, out into the woods and, and one of the new jobs that had, a crew have building homes on that island and, So anyway, we put in our two years, but, but how we got to talking with this old man who had the loan is all that is from, from our land.
And he, he it would.
Hello. Because we were young then maybe I was 22 or 23 and, hum. Was about nine and. we were interested in, in. And so he was quite a rival there to the, ours and port Bill and, and have had to or pollution. I see that there that he just got off. He was a copper, Bovill man.
Was he also the copper at, Elk River or just in Vogel?
as, adult? yeah. And then there was another old rooster. Well, I can't just think of them now.
All of them.
Sam Schrager: Did tell you any stories about what he did?
Gus Gamble: no. No, he, No. Well, that still his. But he was glad that. Oh. Well, at least in the old high, you kind of like him. But he was home in or. But not not a lot of his old is out back about seven. Yeah. I haven't had a round of, of moonshiners and, and, hum.
Duncan. So, fill them in or extend them. You have to go back to the wood, not be coming in and getting. And I guess you did you take some money though like though for them next morning they didn't have money to turn them out. They come back and pay a $10 fine, and that would take them 30 years on account.
Anything.
Yeah, but he got all kinds of it. Yeah. Sometimes he gave them back the money, know, sometimes they didn't. But he was, he was well, like, that he must be dead long.
Sam Schrager: Oh, yeah. He died in, World War two, but 1941, I think.
Gus Gamble: Oh, widow. Yeah, that was actually he was pretty well all in years. Then. you remind me of an old. How about you, Sherry? Up here also, ma'am, Jim can only can. Was a big man, and he wasn't. He was about my size, thought, but.
Hey, we're both Irish.
But that was it. And that daddy's road. And, had the. You would, Oh, it finished him pretty good yarn, you believe. What'd you want him to do on that? He, he was, for the this diesel whole. We all left it all back a little bit. I was in ours. Go ahead and all my.
And I'll tell Moscow how I knew it. Come down. Have a mile or maybe an hour that bull bell. And then they picked me up and take me down to Delhi. And I jump out there walking is about either 30 miles, something like that. And then, if I was and you could use the catch a hat or some radio in there, but, you know.
Yeah. And take sometimes you would only ride a few miles. I was very clear. And so we didn't go quite to Moscow. We'd, you know, of all we got to the cemetery, we got off in that home. It was a couple of miles. How long?
Sam Schrager: Where would you be coming back from? From working.
Gus Gamble: And. No, we just.
Coming back from out.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Coming out from the heart of my traveling one.
Yeah. allows you to go on to it about that time. And it wasn't this particular the first winter I said this, I had somebody every night, but then, you went down and talked to them. Now the, the. Land off the land opposite, Lewiston. And so I. Yeah. So, I don't know how long I was going to be on the lawn and so they said, no, I didn't want to have want to have them that so I did.
And then I got down from the had dropped so on. And so they so had it all, the half of it every night. You been gone for a week or a couple of weeks. Gone working some crazy inopportune that it you just, you just, you go in there 1st December and then you the Green Hand.
You. Yeah. You go to work out and just go home. So I didn't I didn't. And so then I walked in the road, and, there was only on that I would, camp and just camp and the home was, was out night and then come down Monday morning and go to work, and I, I used to go out.
I could, I could go all the mail on the walk back and forth, but it wasn't very good for that because it was, I had no water, mills. And so I only got up to half a day. Then I put the job that had been put away, the war. I, you know, war in back in the and the old country, the old, the carpenter in 14.
And we turn up to a download for that. There's about $0.60 and that was pretty good. If I'm helping bad little ranch and and go out and and work in the summer and, and, we do. We just spent minute as long as you were in there around that. And we did that, and all of them did.
And, that was a gold mine and,
Sam Schrager: My place and out of Elk River there.
Gus Gamble: Yeah, but and we never, never. but yes, a you he him. And I'm so glad you had up. my.
oh. But there were to.
It coming up. Oh.
All right. Nice.
They. They.
You know, my son.
Sam Schrager: Yes. We met last last week.
Gus Gamble: Yeah, yeah. Pretty good out there.
Yeah.
And by the year.
Oh, I got a whole barn for it.
Yeah.
After. Well, I got a whole combine hitch over there. Well, it just had anyone who knew how to hook it up. And horses.
We don't have any the horses as well. I think you the out.
Oh no. The horses wouldn't do too much good if I had any horses hook up, man. Wouldn't do me a hell of a lot of good.
Well, that went pretty well.
I couldn't get them out in the field anyway. Yeah, yeah.
It's really.
That, beats the pulse of, How hot is your. hum. Mine. What?
Oh, God, I don't know. Must be can turn.
Oh, I don't pace at all.
can I.
Believe this horse? You have the all in one.
Once you bang, we have to push it.
Yeah.
I've put a tongue in behind and push.
Well, the reason, but I.
Just did it. Just one charge for sure. yeah. So? So we're excited to have it for a race that you wouldn't have to.
I mean, why would you do that when you got to go? Oh.
Sam Schrager: Well, you know, there's no the way things are going. You, Randy, and you might have a hard time getting the old gas.
Gus Gamble: So you wouldn't need it. All these farmers are down next spring and they can't get any diesel. Well, I'll be in business.
Yeah.
You know, all.
Sam Schrager: You need is hook those farmers up there.
Gus Gamble: You're doing.
All right.
I got a horse out here, and I'll run me up another one someplace.
You might take us. We're buggy. Right. Anyway, with that.
That's a woman. Yes.
Right. Yeah. Well, that was really. Well, it's quite popular. That didn't happen. Maybe. Yeah. You know, it could have happened to somebody home and had an airplane. Might have something.
Sam Schrager: Who's old shorty.
Gus Gamble: You tell him. I'm not sure he'll.
Rich a man. I don't know who was shorty. Oh, I did, man, but work around here at one time he did everything.
Oh, yeah.
Phenix one. Rob Banks shot, man. Yeah, yeah. A couple of things. They thought it could have been true. Yeah.
Hello? Yeah. I will follow you around. Over me. No, I don't know. Yeah, I had a guy. He lives in Lewiston, but he used to he with.
A I in.
Hollywood. And how he. Yeah, he got a saloon up at, I believe it was,
comedy.
Yeah, yeah. History. Yeah. When they were, opening up the, the reservation there about 96, I think. And so he had a. Yeah, it's a saloon up there. And, so, I'll tell, Kevin that when we come know if there's a meeting of the night and I got. Sure the bar, it's a call and.
Yeah, man, I think the proprietors did. Or is that he just started all fish.
You heard.
The. Yeah. Take your advice. When we get out of here is about believable follow up. well, is now you. Yeah. They could read the, on a newspaper. So a mile away and I took all of them.
but there's.
No, how are they? Uses the employee, then?
He was the one pulled the night or done and told him to get out and shoot him. So full of holes he could read the newspaper that way. No Shorty little.
Oh, Shorty. Yeah. So sorry to lose. And, I hope we'll, Yeah. He said he said something like. I didn't know what he said, but, you know. Yeah, you run the hell off and then we.
Holiday on the bar.
Yeah.
The shorty was in. Okay.
Yeah, he was in there. And he was right. It was a party line for.
Oh. The hell that old fellow.
It's an old, Campbell. you know, example on the salmon River.
flat.
Know in some fellow before his. But anyway, we'll, we gonna. And then Ben Reeves. Ben Reeves. Oh, yeah. yeah. And he was. He was the hell. Boy, am I good to do. I've seen him roll and ride and everything, and and ride is, just, you know, maybe 60 when he was a, you know, he could ride and, put in a horse in there.
know.
That's good. Yeah, I don't recall. I've seen.
Him to, that that salmon river countries bad. Yeah. They have mean cattle come out of there. Yeah. Who I mean, man.
Yeah. That's right.
It's bad.
No, there's no this old a shorty had ridden was near the Isle of Man. about thousands and and,
Oh, yeah.
I'll fly away from still and, anybody, any he was with, with plats when they bought a bunch sell their way late. They were horses now. yeah. Oh, I. Sell them the do ass planes is of cost of salmon and, I they, Yes, it's was the guidance. Yeah. absolutely. For about, November of him froze up and and I'm still in health about.
and trust it there.
I can't this figure when it was but it was when we were over in the reservation in 29. No, 38 and that.
19
I think about the night.
That's when most and froze up. What how they walk the cattle right across on the.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was what collapsed him. Who was that 1600 head who called? very they pushed the call sign on the ice.
And that was year plants went from.
No later than.
That. Right. It is.
But but that's the that's the large on that blow. And they, they, did.
Oh I know that that's your.
It say.
That again about two.
Yeah.
Is that's.
What it was after. Yeah. After World.
War one.
And they went broke.
Yeah.
And they were moving the cattle before World War One.
Yeah. But, by 18 I think it was 70 that they came over. So I don't know, I sent him over to help him put it in his car.
On that and but the moment they landed. Yeah. And, I think that goodbye even the then 60, I'm sure.
Yeah. Where's the number?
And I know.
That. But we got to find those that would be able to set them up for them. And they were living out. Yeah. And a place, back in the warehouses. So home and, and stuff and.
we were down below.
I had that place. I had a man that bothers from.
Oh, wait, that girl Don Jane lived there for a while, didn't they?
Yeah. Oh, no, I don't mean it meant that, you know, are back on my. Yeah, back a while back there.
Sam Schrager: And I would did, sure to do a lot of things you said and done. It was, it was like a real or.
Gus Gamble: brother knife. The deputy sheriff in at Garfield. Yeah. And they he broke into the they took him to court and put him in jail, and they broke into jail, put a rope around his neck and hit the guy. A Negro or somebody was in jail and threw out the window at 9:00 next morning. And that that is.
That's the video. Yeah.
That's official as far as I showed out of rope. But bro Link Strong was scared to death.
Yeah, I.
Sure he was tough and well known. The guy that ran might hear that hammer from hammers bar in Genesee. Yeah. Said that old shorty was, braiding or something in Montana and it was 40 below, and he was out there with no gloves on and no overshoes.
Yeah.
Sam Schrager: With his.
Gus Gamble: Yeah. yeah. And as you see it, yeah, that was true. And he had this horse black out up in that house and the horse's harness and, you know, so they were afraid for my littlest and. All right. Yes. Do they know what I know?
Well, now, it wasn't this holiday out there. Was he a descendant of Doc Holliday, a Wild West name, or was, you.
Know, yeah. Yeah, he was, you know, this is, Yeah.
So I can see Doc Holliday down here. Oh, wasn't I.
I was there,
It's an old time name, dudes coming all the way down through Idaho history these holidays.
Holiday.
Oh, yeah.
Sam Schrager: What was his real name? Do you know Kelly Hill? Meyers. Kelly Hill?
Gus Gamble: Yeah.
And you got to tell you to tell Sam now about the shooting at the 21 ranch, because that's a very famous story. The 21 ranch up out of Lewiston, always about 25 miles out of Lewiston. Yeah. And that's real famous, the big a lot of whole history. Big old, you know, Lewis one, published in 1903. It calls the man.
It says a man named Short Heal was there at the ranch, but they'd never been able to find him. But it wasn't short. He, along with Shorty ill is what they mean.
Yeah.
Sam Schrager: Then sure. What is sure to be sure. He saw that.
Gus Gamble: what were you boys tell him? Because I don't know. I'm gonna make a cup of coffee, so I got coffee sharing.
In the old woman. Gave him, what, $50 and told him to take a stream, pack mules back home? Yes, I did that.
Sam Schrager: I know we did.
Gus Gamble: Tell him about, I started with bootlegging two. And most of these stories you made, they were. All right.
Sam Schrager: Well, now, what's the story about the killing in Shorty? What did he have to do with that? He saw it.
Gus Gamble: Yeah, well, he, Yes, he. Yeah.
This project gets along for, you know, what's a good story?
Yeah. Right. This, this old, old man Hill is pretty old.
But after the shooting was the number one ranked. The doctor story.
Yeah. This,
Well.
That's all. Well, man, this must have been about in the 90s. I think that news I know not 1898 or 96 or something like that. And, there's an old woman it had, I don't know how she come to have this lamb, but she had a big new ranch out south of Lewiston, and, it was, well, out to become a pond.
It was the most out of it. Out of all of them. There wasn't much interest, but wall.
Was.
All about it. They had a store there, but I think a a retirement was I think that had. Oh. Oh, sorry. You know, and I was probably a little bit little baby I mean, you know, at 90 I think it's an 1896 I believe.
But anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah. Well wasn't that a damn. I didn't have no wife or any kid. You know, they, he had been out there, right? Some he little wrangling horses there. And it wasn't so much chattel. Theirs was lot of horses. And, so they rounded round that up, you know, on I think it was about 1898 or something like that during the wall was going on.
And, they, and they. Yeah, that old, oh, I'm sure he was rounding up, horses and brittenham probably of heavy cavalry. And there's a lady meantime her manager that is your landlord or something? he had died, and so, she had a formatter, and she he he said he had some holdings back in Montana.
Or further back, maybe. But anyway, it seemed like they had they had this big bunch of horses, horse and five year olds and so on. It's been written. It was just, some other two hanging around there, but, old shorty. Yeah, he was in town and was there was one he had been out with him and was in town playing poker at nine, two, three months.
Probably get some $48 a month. Yeah. And I had he, found him in and said, I'll give you a couple of dollars that if you break this horse for me. And so he got out of it. So no, no horse barred. So he got on the lot is first of all, it and just the real the steal.
And by the. So he missed $2 but not in line five job. There was $20. Oh these know if it was $20 bill. He had the drill up and this hat inside of his headband and body not only picked up his hat and, that damned, it was inside. It had, on the sweat band. So. But yeah, the add $22.
So Henley wasn't out the said this and was book. And so he went out. So he went out and this, this old woman who was kind of running it. Yeah. And show this part of and, he was a different, different breed of dog, but, There was, there's trouble on one man. And, and I think we don't get much money because it was a hard time.
But anyway, he, They only sent him up there for farm Animal Farm, and he was, they sent him up to the. He home, lay back on him, said he must get made. Maybe a human run in a to the horses and and break them for the cavalry was I guess it was the Spanish-American War of 1898.
And, he was one of the bull of the Boer War that we getting on, on, on that was Paris. American war was over. Why they you know, there was some kind of a, a row, in math, they wanted to get down the south. So some of them, he was. Yeah. Well, they were, But anyhow, they didn't they didn't,
and there was a rout went on, and you know what it was. But anyhow, you went, then you went up there and these. He's all right. So I don't know what time of the day it was, but he was getting the horses out onto the fence, grass and, working. And that is a real. And, these fellows starting to, round, the house and, I mean, he saw he saw how the hell was popping and he, maybe he hadn't been five minutes before, I believe was right.
It him in from Ben Reeves or somebody else. And but he was running to this old lady, and her mom would bring these horses to bring a couple of car would maybe he had Lord. And so he used me about 5 or 6 a day, and they were pretty salty.
Some, some time and, right, right.
And then and they couldn't and I turn them loose here and so anyway, they by God he had he'd work that off and, and so but fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome. He's awesome. I'm sure he going oh he might lead you back. Yeah. Some of the on that. And so he, he could see they didn't have strong bridges.
He knew somehow. So you come down anyway with the bunch or he had rounded up. And so you go to the house. The only the stand that that ought to have would come the time.
Oh.
He says there's, Well, I don't know. I didn't say much, but he says I didn't see, did he, Smoke the smoke coming from the point here and, I saw used to smoke a the, yeah, he did see that. So let's see. And, I saw an.
Awful lot.
Of.
Some.
Eyes that I saw some. And. Yeah. So he says that have avenue. Yeah. Because, you know, they have those around, you know, corral and stuff over there. Yeah. The snake River away from. So that shows you what turned them horses back up with corral and take off. I take off over to the station, over to,
Yeah. I think one name of the place, so what? How would you. Something about something and I don't I don't blame. I know you haven't ever been here. So is $50 not over and went someplace and got the groceries and stuff. So then it was. But so happened. But then they, the and I, so some people laughed at one of the old people over south and so and, you know, old man.
Yeah. That's my husband shot. She hadn't shot him dead. But, anyway. Yeah. So you stay back here. Yeah. So he's no longer than that. It showed up there in. You didn't have been Reeves. but you have this little have hibernating there, and you you could get that. yeah, that was it. That. Yeah. That is,
It must've been there.
Sam Schrager: So she told. So she told him. Just don't say, you know, he's. He saw somebody fall. He saw somebody get shot.
Gus Gamble: Yeah. See it? I mean, I've got some high points here. yeah. He's all, But he knew there was some, some trouble going on, but but he hadn't been there, before that. he knew them and probably have been there at different times, but he hadn't been working at the time. But anyhow, they have a nice big old house there.
Yeah. Who. Yeah.
And got a little balcony around. Yeah. That window.
Yeah. So I enjoyed.
Every time that he was standing up there and saw this.
And so they thought, man, he. Yeah. Oh, this Yeah. This man. So they have the lamb, and that and then and the rested for, for some reason or yeah. yeah. These two men have the had the bull shot themselves with that, the bull shot and, and they've all got killed. But is it different tasers this, that.
Yes. for this one older man and it will be shot. So this shot, the they did they shoot. So the two men died but still able to they shoot, you know. So then they, But they got, they, they got a hold of this brother up Shorty Hill. Let me see. You know how that would work. Yeah.
This one. I know this man wasn't, this, And you also showed his brother, and he was in jail in Colfax, but cause, he, Did it in person, right? Yes.
And when this doesn't have anything to do with the shooting on the 21 ranch.
Sam Schrager: No, no. There's another.
Gus Gamble: Yeah, that's.
About in hills.
Yeah. Red Hill. Yeah, yeah. And he, they just. That hill was in jail. Go to hell. Try to. But it seems like it was, check they couldn't prove anything on it and were called in until going to, have not in the six months or something. And, and he'd be out by he was trying to defend the neighborhood had to that they knew what.
Yeah. Somebody and, but that's why that had nothing to do with this at all.
Sam Schrager: He was trying to defend a Negro that was in jail.
Gus Gamble: Yes. he didn't he didn't want them to bother. And I thought the he got a. Yeah.
I believe. Yeah. There wouldn't, there wouldn't of, wouldn't let him just go a lot the Negro but this, not old Shorty Hill, I don't know, brother. He is it. Yeah. He he tried to defend him. like I said, just let the all out there. They, took that, and it was, all them the fellows were around, and they just took them both out and hanged them out.
And I used to. I was the the the.
The rope, like,
Yeah. The, the, well, there's a big board with the war, two winters or so that I did and that he, that was, this, this, Ex. Yeah.
Sam Schrager: Called at the, court at the courthouse.
Gus Gamble: Yeah. The courthouse. But they built some more on the way since, you didn't feel a another.
Sam Schrager: had this had the Negro, killed somebody?
Gus Gamble: Yeah, I just know it is. Normally. Why would. Because he. Yeah.
Harry, you know.
Blind in or or question and answers.
But there's been much, The little rural. Water power of public. Just it did little story on the shooting at the 21 range. Oh. But they didn't have as much to to discuss tales. But there was a big trial. Went on quite a while, and now I can't even remember how it how it ended up. But but for a long time, the sons of this woman ran the Raymond Hotel down there.
and her mother, that. Well,
And the mother, the grandmother to those boys. grain.
I would say, Old did the shooting. It was on.
Yeah, that was freehold. Well. You know that her daughter had run a.
And the main.
Raymond. Yeah.
Sam Schrager: Well, did you believe? Most assuredly. Stories. Did you think then that that, like, was that story about him on the ranch? Was that a true story, you think?
Gus Gamble: I believe it was, of course, was long the before you ever told it? not gonna read.
Them written till the. They were looking for this man, Shawn Hill. the tall guilty, I guess. Protected him. Told him he never. What? Parker never had no soul. Showed you.
Sam Schrager: So he covered for.
Was this shorty? What kind of a guy was shorty I mean was it, was he a real tough guy. Pretty tough I think.
Gus Gamble: I one time I came out to work for me and last year about 19 oh, 18 or something like that. And so only. I'd see him at rodeos and so on. I don't have a dollar. Do want to have yet a drink or do a long time. I worked don't. He'd been up in the woods not going to lake.
You.
Yeah. You don't know woods fight, you know, but I he. Never let him get out. but his shoes were burned up on the soles. And you have a kid that gave him a parachute. But the damn thing that he had to wear boots. them or. Yeah, I'd have them, brace on from here up to his knee and then.
Well, strap the strap. Rounded waist on each ankle, close to the ankle. Don't. Down them with a neighbor. Because that was pretty late. It about 29, 28 or 29 2011. And that 28. Okay. Yeah.
I was walking up the hill. So we were down that afternoon or waiting for come in. So he didn't want them to, Put my body forward. come on, man, wasn't there. He was gone off Pomeroy or some little town. But anyway, eventually, at along the old. Swing did.
Put a. Yeah. Yeah. The old swing had known this man that was somewhere these cars. And so he. Wanted to trade in this old Dodge and armored and he put the, stiff oil in probably a 40 on it. And I don't think that's I knew much about you was talking about you just kind of working there, but.
So where you. He traded this so already in and.
Had the. Yeah. This. Money enough to pay the difference under. But he you on there took the oil and so on. Jesus who cut the arms of that this all that lead off that was so that what this fella did.
That girl that had tragedy in my, you know.
And he's the fella that's sold it to. Don't have a good word work. Right. He gave him a title alone. that. God, don't look there he is. Full of all. Damn. He just needed him. Miles need more. So he. And so he lost his job. That's my. I'm not. I'm.
Not ready with that. My. We were coming up with this new. The way forward. I pick the attitude. Everything. Was already here. Oh. We.
Have to. Where's he going in that going? Oh, God. Rose knows about that moonshine out prayer. The Lord, you have mercy. And he had. And he kind of. And, officers got after him and he came around them up. And by God, he had him arrested. And several people have been buying it cut. Right. So he got a yeah, in the pan.
Shorty did. And then all this, this other guy, this other well, is a fellow named Ben, and the men named this man didn't, didn't have a name.
And a nobody to go to work for. But then surely a bit hang around there at one. So he came and he asked what he was headed for that night. And. How the light. I said, if you got a job, this is nobody tell you, all right. There is no way I thought I'd come up. And then a couple of hours a day and for for.
Running war. The last is that, you know. But there's pockets, you know. So anyway. Yeah. Don't you have a bad is, close had it burned up and so on. So when I come down, I ran to hour, but I didn't. I up to it, so I did it. All three did. I placed another pedal, weren't there?
And he wasn't a very good horseman by night. I know it was done that bought it when I got there. Had big hole but a blade, just big long knife, 12ft long. And it was. Yeah. You would.
Yes. You would have this, you could cut them or weeds up there to be so he wouldn't. What are you going? yes, we did. And hold it in, five feet down.
For a pretty good run in a couple of holes and orders. Because I knew he would. I said, good, and you might have some wild. No, not too wild is a note. Though I said I'll make a round around the field. A big, long field around him. Here I have with him most of. And so we, Well, I had breakfast ready and he was pretty drunk then, you know, everyone listed out, so I'm going away.
I got it.
Yeah, I remember how. All right. Right. Because we're out. I had the I user, and the only job that things had that would be good on the blade that wanted, welcome. And don't other than that noise is that's, make a hamburger sandwich or two and the kind of coffee and leave it out. that pulled some way, though.
Time. Now noone comes. Why? Just don't bite him up to a fence. So, man. And you won't have to bother with it is. And by night they'll beat him down. So that was all he did. And he said he with I'd have a pie that was yellow. I said no, no it's getting out. The door will get through.
So he said about two weeks of man. So I mean I helped me. It got is yeah. This is. The mean I miss you that hell, I had no shoes and no boots. No. blazer. not a thing was weighing a pound. I almost just this this girl, I I'm mad that his lump just now because, they know and it was above midnight.
Yeah. So so we. Yeah, I kind of did that, and and, this one fellow that was not too smart, he. Yeah, he, Kept them.
Yeah. Damn. I should get older. That boy. Oh, I did, I should be and travel some.
Sam Schrager: Oh, yeah. Oh. He's gone.
Gus Gamble: He's gone. Sit out a minute and.
I didn't get that. But anyway, so we, he'd been working for some neighbors of ours a few days, and he, you know, something that.
Was just.
So. And I. Yeah. Well, Well done. Jan have come me on Jan have a views sheet, maybe a hundred head.
And he have his brother. You know him dead. Oh.
Listen, I know Grace.
Oh, yeah, he knows.
Oh, I love it. Well, he says, questions why he's at home place. at the end of this is a sheep. Yes. Yeah. If you have it up him in the lower. Hey now. So I, I've, I get my gung ho I the what, Is it, a pretty or gun or not? But there's common, for me, for him.
But he says anyway, Buttercup seen after that. So I thought you was a bad man the whole way. But, I had known him already. sorry. I taught it years ago. Yes, but not that. Never had was so. Oh, was that right? Yeah. Yes. He says yes. We picked him up, brought him off the highway that night about 1:00.
Come on down there and, but he says, yeah. This is,
That was.
One of.
Our.
Quite forgotten. Oh, oh, I bet they, you know what.
Sam Schrager: His name was.
Gus Gamble: Yeah, well, and this is, he says, I figure I was the he's there's one fella. And now I forgot. I've had the Arnold one man. Yeah, it's him, a farmer. And, my daddy and your gun on me. And so I do my little quick. And he was let down there, and, So, anyway, he was a bad man.
I don't know if I he was probably. Hell. So they picked me up and I found it. Was this some man? Oh. They said, tell him. He said that all should be shot years ago and they just turned the loose. And then this was two others that this boy. God, that that's a long way to go. But anyway, so it had he had no.
So he he never then did he don't have all it ever been in jail but just in overnight and and turned out.
Sam Schrager: Okay now girls when you mentioned it at this business about the cars, about the car. Now, what did shorty have to do with that?
Gus Gamble: 000, well, we just stuff it. We we were kept late that night because I showed you had nothing to do with it.
Sam Schrager: Oh, that was just, you know, just the family problem.
Gus Gamble: Yeah. I was, so I went down, we talk to the stolen. I knew, remember you well, name McKinney at all. Right? Wrong. We went down this day. You were little time. Do you? Hold on to his name till he was trying to make a deal.
Sam Schrager: And on the car? Yeah, on the car, I see.
Gus Gamble: I'm good. Oh, he didn't sell that all about that. He sold it. Bring it down later by trading or trading me on the van. You were not? No. After all, he made me do a lot of it yet. And after him? Until someone wouldn't pay him because he wasn't made right on, but wouldn't give it back. So he just throw it in the river and then listen.
Other was wasn't.
I remember.
I think a lot of it was on that.
I am.
Writing from that.
Article on.
Wonderful, mama. You could remember the exact date and everything or when they did things. But this shorty here was a graphical man. He was a very, interesting little fella. He ran the stagecoach for Felix Warren years ago. And here's a little something. And I don't want this on tape, but, Yeah, yeah, but.
Sam Schrager: This was telling it that that shorty saw from the hillside. He saw him up, up in the hills.
Gus Gamble: He saw. Well, that's always, you know, that's always been kind of a moot question. I mean, you know, whether he saw it or maybe he was closer. See, he could have been closer, you know? So.
but it's, they had a big, long investigation over it in the Lewiston papers. The old papers are full of the long trial. A long, drawn out trial, trying to just discover what had gone on there. But I don't remember now, Howard. Howard wound up.
Sam Schrager: It was, But when you were, you knew shorty owners.
Gus Gamble: Oh, yeah.
Sam Schrager: Yeah. There. Yeah. He was. Was he really a character?
Gus Gamble: Oh, yeah, he was a character. He was quite a character. He was quite a character, a good horseman. He. You'd won many trophies in the Bronco riding, you know, at various places. He had ridden the Pendleton and, you know, Miss Road in various places and was a very skilled bronco buster. Yeah. I mean, I think most of what it was about ride took him a long time to say it.
That was all. Boom. Yeah.
Sam Schrager: It doesn't you know just he speaks once.
Gus Gamble: Well yeah. That's right.
Sam Schrager: But he knows what he wants to say.
Gus Gamble: Oh yes. Oh yes he knows. Yeah. That's right.
Interview Index
Wild Davey. Gus doubted he could read or write. Davey worked for the Gambles, and Gus remembers he was a poor hand. Davey gets angry at them for giving away one of the dogs he left with them. Davey's shack had no door, he crawled in through a window. The kids thought he was an old "windjammer", lying that he had taught Kit Carson a lot. His appearance. Davey asks a girl to comb his long long hair.
Homesteading near Elk River in 1912. Trumball's sons ran cattle from the North Fork of the Clearwater up to the Elk River area. Buying a relinquishment, and proving up. The land was no good for growing. Building up the railroad.
Sheriffs Pat Malone and Jim Kane. Elk River to Moscow. Hitching a ride from
Working out while proving up on the homestead was fine with the land office in Lewiston.
Bob Clyde enters with a double tree. Bob tells of Shorty Hill. Shorty threatens to shoot full of holes a man who comes into Holliday's Lewiston saloon with a knife. Shorty rode cattle with Ben Reeves and others in the Salmon River country. Shorty helped the Platts move their cattle across the Salmon in the terrible winter of 1919.
Shorty's brother was lynched with a Black man in Colfax. Shorty worked in forty below weather with no gloves. Shorty breaks a horse and blows the money. He witnessed a multiple killing at the Twenty-One Ranch near Lewiston, and for fifty dollars from the woman he got out and kept his mouth shut. More about the hanging of Ed Hill.
The Black man Ed defended had killed someone. More about the murder at the Twenty-One Ranch. Shorty burned his clothes fighting forest fires. A man loses his job for taking a bum car on trade-in. Gus put Shorty to work as a hired hand on the ranch, but doesn't give him whiskey. His gun had three notches: he killed one man on the Salmon and they turned him loose, one he killed for not paying him for making a lariat. Lola Clyde recalls Shorty Hill. with