Latah County Oral History Collection

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. Let's go now.

Unknown Interviewer: Okay, now I'll go back and you can start all over again.

Bruce Glenn: Born Kendrick, Idaho, 1904. Okay. And. Then we moved from there. We lived there about a year or maybe two years. Then we moved over to Potlatch Ridge. I grew up over there. You're straight East Junior, and up on top of that hill and all that.

Unknown Interviewer: And across the river.

Bruce Glenn: And right street east, right on top of that home. And went to school. We went to the country school over there. I never did go to high school. I went that was that. I never did go to high school. I miss out on the farm, you know, and to older my boy. Not only that, neither one went to high school and no, we had to make we had a big family there, you know, and dad worked out.

Us kids done the work.

Unknown Interviewer: What did your father do then?

Bruce Glenn: He was a carpenter. And they'd work ten hours a day for $0.50 an hour and $5 a day. And that that was a lot of money at that time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a. Yeah.

Now, he said he came from North Carolina. Worked for both my folks. Did MacNeil milk moonshine days. You see.

Unknown Interviewer: They still have the money.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. Oh, yes they do.

Unknown: They did. Yeah. And.

Unknown Interviewer: Do you remember the big Kennewick fire?

Bruce Glenn: No, no. You see, that happened in that? not the 1900. And I've seen it. Well, I'll tell you who can show you. Not a picture. None of the, autumn children. And they had they had, down for the for the Locust Blossom Festival down there. They had several pictures, and they had one for flood and one for the fire.

And the three, the ham. They kids are buried on American Ridge Cemetery that bound to did that for, you know, the little little fellas handling of. You've heard the Hamley saddle. Well, the hamlets went from Kendrick to Pendleton, Oregon, and they built the Heavenly Saddle, and it was noted as one of the best saddles in the country.

And all that time.

Oh, interesting. But with a.

Agnes Glenn: I thought there was a picture here. I have one.

Unknown Interviewer: yeah, yeah. Wonder if they had any floods that you can remember. Cause I don't think any one up on the ridge.

Bruce Glenn: Well, I've seen I've seen lots of high water, and I just missed seeing the ridge there. And that's out the goes across this side of Julia. just went up the hill that. Gosh, just before that ridge went out, we stood watching it there for a long time, and I just got out of sight, looking out my mouth.

You okay?

Unknown Interviewer: What was that? Oh.

Bruce Glenn: That's four weeks married. You know, I went to bed weeks later. I think that's been that's been.

Agnes Glenn: If I had that terrible, flash flood. You know, when we get on the ridge, you know, and pushed out the camera. Gosh.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, I've seen that. And that will.

Agnes Glenn: Shoot. You heard about it? I know, I know about that.

Bruce Glenn: But, see, we are old arches. That must have been about 39.

Agnes Glenn: Oh, no. We were living on the ridge, I remember we've been to that ballgame. And you enjoy right up on the hill to see and and these clouds are just rolling around. Well. And everything got dark. Just as dark as night. You don't want our rain and get out of the way, you know, down there in the hill.

Bruce Glenn: Well, I'll be married in 36. Yeah, well, we spent two years old. Archie's in rice, and then we moved over there, and then about 38 or 9.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah, but I. Oh, yeah, but I don't know.

Bruce Glenn: And the.

Unknown Interviewer: Telephone started.

Agnes Glenn: Ringing. Yeah. They was ringing, you see, because there was a house, there was a house down below.

Bruce Glenn: And people, people driving with that green two, you see. And it got won't made, not, won't made Lloyd made truck and the hell in his mind. You kept that thing over and he had some horses in that and tipped that over and by. And George, they were just lucky to get out alive. That was all.

Agnes Glenn: Well and and and brick. And then, did you have a woman in her first husband come up in a car, you know, and they got out of the car, climbed up on the hillside, get out of the way, the plot. And they said, oh, what's that name? You're Roberts? Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: I know that. No. Not them. Ernie can't run.

Agnes Glenn: And and a couple were coming out and they have the card out and they could see a I of water coming out at them. And then.

Bruce Glenn: And there it was a yelling everybody meet them, yell the flood to go. And fled to come. And and my daughter read it down to yeah. It's like.

Unknown Interviewer: And then it was just a cloudburst.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. To two inches, two inches of water fell right there at the top of the hill. And in just a few minutes, my gosh. Yeah. We've been down at a ballgame. And we said, oh.

Agnes Glenn: We just got no.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. We sit there weren't flooded. And when we got out of the car and we seen a big ground him and that back in this direction in we got to watching that and say riding underneath was all black and that magenta rolled and and rolling and up there. And I said, dang, I don't know if it's a 90 or if it's going to be.

So I went on back to the house a little bit. Not not the cow. I was out the milking. Heard him. That thing hit, man. You come, the water run through. Well, the barn some down through the bar.

Agnes Glenn: I didn't land and I don't think they'd all stick out in the day, but it it worked.

Bruce Glenn: But it put in there, it put in their meter to this yard and they rolled in a creek and she had chicken places all over the. Oh my.

Agnes Glenn: Goodness. No, no out. And it was that off the foundation. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: They jumped out. And then the water grew right through the house. Went right through. Oh boy. That was a.

Unknown Interviewer: Shock. Know. No.

Bruce Glenn: I tell you, I tell a lot of people that, yeah. In days we didn't have any money. We had two bids to go to 4th of July. That in fact, the money. And, you give a kid two bits. Now, what would they do?

Agnes Glenn: when we first met, we work for $50 a month. But, of course, he he did them outside work, and I went to that school. But then we had everything furnished. Everything was furnished. But that's what we got. 59.

Bruce Glenn: And they. And but we saved money, too.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah, well.

Agnes Glenn: We just had over expenses. You know what they wanted?

Bruce Glenn: No. Yes we did.

Agnes Glenn: Using cost too much.

Bruce Glenn: We save them, save money. At that time.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. When you say that, I can remember when I got $60 a month and I was think of. That was a lot of money.

Unknown Interviewer: Do you get your board with that?

Bruce Glenn: More than $60 a month.

Unknown: I did it.

Bruce Glenn: I don't know what this, that's gonna hold for the younger kids. Just what it's going to be like when they get. Yeah, pick up the paper here today and anytime. And you see the, old greed and hatred into our world, and and that's that's why I think it is to just greed and hatred. You.

Unknown Interviewer: Know.

How did you two a week.

Agnes Glenn: Since you were born. Raised and no runs. I he was working at, at, Carol Cox's and they needed a heart girl. So I, I was, I thought we meant I ran, I grew up.

Bruce Glenn: And I was, I was took see.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, you were making $60 a month.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah. I, you know.

Agnes Glenn: And I just got my 30. I got a dollar a day, man. But I had work for $20 a month too.

Unknown Interviewer: Now what were your responsibilities as the hired girl.

Agnes Glenn: What would you do if they.

Unknown Interviewer: Just just got off the keeper?

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. Happened. That lady that, I don't know, she just had a baby. They had one person seven, 607, I think.

Bruce Glenn: And with people asking for her.

Unknown Interviewer: And so you took care of all the children?

Agnes Glenn: Well, yeah. You know, just to a degree. You do the washing and ironing them.

Unknown Interviewer: That sounds like so much you have, you have to use,

Agnes Glenn: Sapphires. Yeah. And then she got a gasoline.

Unknown Interviewer: Gasoline.

Agnes Glenn: Gasoline. I did you see though. Oh, I did you have time to buy.

Unknown Interviewer: How does that work.

Agnes Glenn: That's kind of old tank on the end of it. And you build up a gas and pump it up like you did this way. And you know, you've seen them last.

Bruce Glenn: And I'll show it to you for our lives.

Unknown Interviewer: okay. You did it from the inside. And, I can stay,

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. It's a little hell, Larry. You turned it on that gas and come up in like that.

Agnes Glenn: Kind of like a lamp.

Bruce Glenn: It was. It had that little blue flame, you know, and. Yeah, you know, and went to sputtering and out of gas and and fill it up again and see. But, you know, that was kind of dangerous. That was in my house where they have the old cook stove and had a good fire in that, you know, and something like that.

You just built some of that gas and that little note that had been something you.

Unknown Interviewer: People were real careful.

Agnes Glenn: it was quite convenient. So compared to those old homes that you get on the stove and then you do have a fire and you put that around, ma'am, it was.

Bruce Glenn: Until you locked some down sometime. My gosh, you're going to Kennewick or something. Going. You go up to my brother's place up there. He's got some old pictures there on all these old guys years ago. Had the old handlebar mustache, straw hats and harvest. And he's got a hot rod of those old pictures out there. I'd be done.

Folks had him and instead divide them out amongst his kids. We just left them all together and they're over there. If any of the family want to see him, they. Yeah, they can go and look them over and then pull them back. You see. And, yeah, it's a horses.

Where's the picture of those are combined. I'm right there in Compton. Quentin. You're on that 21 headed horses in that. Yeah. You home?

Well, that was never something. We had 21 had horses under custody thing at home. And you see, it was three sixes. And then three leaders, and they was all tied down to a chain, center horse. And then they all jockeying to and, they had one to call a jockey, stick it up this long and snap and, and and there's one of them.

Yeah. Just about to take. I've got one down there which I can show you that. And that got three lengths in the snap on it. So it'd be give their when they put in a bit. And then it was a whole like that went on that and that family like you know the horses tote and and then this year jockeys tried to keep them pushed away.

So crowded all the time.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh I see, yeah. It was between. And did the jockey stick was between the horse.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah I.

Agnes Glenn: Think.

Bruce Glenn: And it fastened under one horse as he was passing over to MIT and went the whole neck. That was fast and that was fast and one back to the other horse, you see. And you told him that keep going round like that and make him all go straight.

Unknown Interviewer: I said, yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Oh, nice to. And we get up in the morning, we get up four and 5:00 and sometimes you know and it man to do three seven and one winner there. I've been 32 Hindoo horses all winter and it was cold. And you have to clean the barn and an old pitchfork. And on many a time I stopped and took off my gloves and rub your hands, because they were a pitchfork in was just like a bicycle hanging on to.

Unknown Interviewer: You know,

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, it's. But it was lots of fun. We get out and have a runaway once in a while. The team, you know, would run away. Oh, scatter out the hinges on stuff like that. We did.

Unknown Interviewer: We had had to go chasing down that.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I never really get to do other stuff there. In there. So,

Unknown Interviewer: This was the fashion outfit.

Bruce Glenn: And see the horses pull the combine.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, you call it combine?

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, just the same as they call it now.

Agnes Glenn: But that that is the combine. And they tipped it over. All right.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: That's before they had this hillside paper.

Bruce Glenn: No, no, it was in the hillside that I must drive driving tractor on that. And that tipped over them. And that.

Agnes Glenn: That's where they laid it.

Bruce Glenn: Down. Is that it? no.

Well, it's just one of those things, you know, that's happened. Quite a few people tip one over and over and,

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. Pretty.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah, it's all pretty steep. Some places.

Unknown Interviewer: This this was a combine them. So it did the cutting and. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: And so guess and.

Unknown Interviewer: So what year would that be if they start to use those.

Bruce Glenn: And was far.

Agnes Glenn: Back in 33 Yeah. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Going back in that.

Unknown Interviewer: They were still using horses. Yeah. Oh yes. That is how long was it before they got into Paragon. But around here.

Bruce Glenn: Oh they put the tractor on to a first pull with the tractors to the horses. and then.

Agnes Glenn: All of this is tractor driven.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah. And this one. Yeah. You see, that's the one.

Unknown Interviewer: That's the one I decided to play now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it.

Bruce Glenn: And he's interested in.

21 to hit the horses on the three sixes.

Unknown: And then the three leaders from. I think it's all on.

Agnes Glenn: Horses.

Bruce Glenn: I think too I think that's me sitting up here. Not not there but over there. Supposed to be the hinder punch in there back maybe I was off from.

Unknown Interviewer: Two the ahead of the puncher.

Bruce Glenn: Well and they sent. You see the the hinder fashioned on the side machine got the green. This real come around and took it like this and laid it down and bring back in. This hindered the hand of God right up into the cylinder.

Unknown Interviewer: And I kind of built.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. And then that brought that in. And you had to work that hinder if you short grain and you, you drop your hinder down. See any of that. And if his high grain you bring it up so it wouldn't take so much straw.

Unknown Interviewer: So you had to be there.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah. And then and then and then you had to level your level the count by two and, and you punch to another level and everything, you know. But that was, that was quite a deal. And these horses all strung out here.

Unknown Interviewer: Now did somebody drive the horse.

Bruce Glenn: Oh yeah. Yeah that's I think. Yeah. That's a guy was sitting up there.

Agnes Glenn: okay. Yeah I have a great draw. And up in the morning, you know, you can get more.

Bruce Glenn: And, remember, there's no knock on need here. I think I know Dick there. He was always the one. I never could stand still.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah, not even have his picture taken.

Bruce Glenn: You know.

Unknown Interviewer: Those are beautiful horses.

Bruce Glenn: See, they was. And they had enough horses when you got so much older and got off his feed, you know, wasn't used to. They kick him right out again. Another one of the horses and just as bad as.

Unknown: They can be. So.

Unknown Interviewer: I guess they were a little too slow.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

Unknown: I'm sure you.

Unknown Interviewer: Now, was was this flat land that you were harvesting and that people have, Kendrick or I?

Bruce Glenn: No he's not. Oh, no, it is steep land. I don't remember just when it was took out.

Agnes Glenn: Here's the reason. And his brothers, and his mother down it in the back. I recognize.

Bruce Glenn: Him.

Unknown Interviewer: Five boys. That's a big family. Three girls and three girls. Two all up on the on the ridge. Yeah, and it's right there.

That your dad didn't homestead?

Bruce Glenn: No, no, he did not like that. You don't hear that? I imagine he could have found some homestead land that he worked as carpenters. Come on, guys.

Unknown Interviewer: So you want to stay closer to the city?

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. And then a farm and and gotten to work. But he. He liked it. Yeah, he liked to farm. He liked to get out. And he took the back. And if you ever seen the interest that he got in his work, the to shoot that the back of it, you don't you know, you don't from the courtroom and but you know and he was at when he found a deer hunting moniker and himself in the car wreck all that.

Unknown Interviewer: And. Yeah, you told me about that.

Bruce Glenn: You said you been 82 years old, named next birthday, I believe that's what it was, you know, 1 or 2 or something like that. Yeah. I could not find Indians in, in the picture.

Agnes Glenn: That. Oh, he was healthy too, that.

Bruce Glenn: I went fishing. I knew he'd go out and take off. And mother, she'd lay down and have a sleep in the afternoon, leave the retired candy. And when she'd wake up and she wasn't around someplace, she'd go see if there's fishing problems. No one knows why she no.

Unknown Interviewer: Well, where would he fish? There's no fish down there now.

Bruce Glenn: Well, sure, he'd go over the creek toward the depot is. Well, you have more, Dave. Old garage? Yes. There. You know, as you go up main Street right back in there. And there used to be swimming hole back in that is a picture that horse in that if you hold an old room in off of the big the big ranch style, it will you in not sure that that big horse it and he went back in there and he came home with five just about that long the nicest you he got down that big deep hole and, and then you go from Cedar Creek.

Nobody's stopping fish there. There wasn't any fish there.

Agnes Glenn: And nobody must've seen.

Unknown Interviewer: Wow. What kind of horse is that?

Bruce Glenn: And Belgium.

Unknown Interviewer: That's a Belgian. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: And, boy, he was around to.

Anglers. Anglers. The old and to that right.

Agnes Glenn: There and then I. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: And I was in a hole in. My gosh you're watching me.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Preston. Too much out and in.

Bruce Glenn: Oh he was he was my my.

Agnes Glenn: But I'm afraid.

Bruce Glenn: But I'll tell you that neck there, that boot sheared right down on his neck. Do you see how big that was?

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. That's all.

Bruce Glenn: All horse. Even he was only with you.

Unknown Interviewer: Now, this isn't the typical kind of horse that they had in those days. He's something special, I think.

Bruce Glenn: Well, that was the the best horses. You see, he was a he was a stallion, you see. And yeah, that had quite a few Belgian horses. They got them.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Was there a lot of people that had the Belgians.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. Well so might have some of them had Persians and some had mules and I have no, well men's gotten over there. He and he of the men's kind of runs also had mules and horses too. And yeah, he was really something and and some of the mules, you know, they stand the heat there and horses, they wouldn't sweat my horse.

And you can you can feed the mule all you wanted to and never found there. A horse would stand right there and lead himself to death, you know. But you would do that.

Unknown Interviewer: so which which did you prefer to work with?

Bruce Glenn: Well, I never did work. Mules do too much, but, I like the horses, and, let's say you left year in the future. There.

Agnes Glenn: You see, you know who's driving that team. Now he's some business man. And down.

Unknown Interviewer: That is it, Milton.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, that's all I know. And read it. Yeah. Great arrangement in there. You see, it was a.

Unknown Interviewer: That's a pretty team. Horses too.

Bruce Glenn: There was some news around the Belgians. Very nice there, you know.

Agnes Glenn: Now what were they. And they weren't.

Bruce Glenn: They. No. that guy decided Boonville up there and he hadn't done. I see it up there. Oh, it's been 3 or 4 years ago, and I never know what they were having. Do they sneak around? Got my picture over there. You see and see. Yeah. We'd get rid of all time. You see him again, Christian? Yeah. My mustache was, you know.

Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: We there a lot of people that had beards.

Bruce Glenn: But petroleum around here, they grow, they grew.

Agnes Glenn: So they had him for for communities. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: The old timers, lazy Indians. So I ain't going to go team, mustache with just friends. Could be in the chain point. But. So I did look like a Billy goat.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Well, you were going to tell me something about the two tramways.

Bruce Glenn: But let, Now, the first time I seen that over there, I've been over my dad, you know, and, of course, the kid. You're kind of bashful. We we go up and we see anybody strange. We scared to death, and somebody come along. Doesn't speak to, you know, like, I just imagine we just showed you how to do and went with it.

And we were kids. We took our advice. Well, I've left the table, you know, for I had nothing to talk about.

Agnes Glenn: Right.

Bruce Glenn: Well, I'll, I'll get to that. But, we all went to that tramway over there, and I rode my dad and wagon. I imagine they held about 40 sacks to load, maybe 35. Something like that. Quite steep hills to get over there. But, where he farmed and rented, he could cut around these hills, you see. And he didn't have them all the pull.

But most of them went there, and they had to go up over that. And was there. And I was telling about seeing the sign up there. I'll never forget it was over there, you know, it's a hotel and he's a beautiful. They wrote that right on the post there with black ink. You know, when you see the stamp your name on a sack, that black ink, and then I guys, they had this engine in there and they fired them up.

I don't remember what they worked in that it must have been wood or something. You know, maybe coal. And they had a big drum and there was a go around this year. Drum several times.

Unknown Interviewer: The rope.

Bruce Glenn: the cable.

Agnes Glenn: Cable.

Bruce Glenn: And did go around there several times and there was a car on each end, and the full car going down would pull the into and back up. And they then use this drum, you see, for the brake. That's a way. That's what the that's the way they can hold it. Otherwise. You see when that that full car got blow halfway or else just get started down.

It'd be heavy enough to get it. Bring that other car up there lickety split. Is that you didn't have something to hold it with and it didn't break loose one time. Dented and I don't I didn't remember. It broke loose and went through the warehouse down there and didn't kill anybody. And it ripped through the warehouse and up to the side of the car.

To me. Yeah. And the one thing Kendrick you'd have to talk to. Well, Brown, I told you about or or Marvin Long, Eddie Daybell content or two.

Unknown Interviewer: But that one had, like, buckets on it.

Bruce Glenn: Well, I'll tell you what. It was it. Yeah. down went down like this and made a kind of rig in here and you just lay the sack on it and just imagine was.

Unknown Interviewer: Trying to figure out what what it would look like.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. To.

Unknown Interviewer: Well, like a flower scoop or something to.

Bruce Glenn: Well, it was just a rod, you see. It was fat and fastened up here from each side this way to come down in the time. And and then it went out this way to make the seat. And these kind of turned up here and these over here, and hold it from there. And this over here, from the hold it from losing the air, from losing out on us.

Unknown Interviewer: Like the way that they carry ski or something.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that, you know, but,

Unknown Interviewer: They call it.

Agnes Glenn: The tea bar.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. They said I'll. There's been anything you could find it. You can find some pictures of that thing done around here. Some of those old timers.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. That that was the one that Kendrick knew was there like what years?

Bruce Glenn: I think they went out of business just about the same time. Just about 1915, 17 or someplace in there.

Unknown Interviewer: Because it must be the up the road in.

Bruce Glenn: Well, Teddy, most of people went to the trucks and you see, and they get a whole the whole town, you see it and then get rid of that to that their tramway charge, they call it to that to handle up there. And then they bring down the handle again. So they that's why that's why they took them out.

Unknown Interviewer: Of the tramway charged by the sack.

Bruce Glenn: You know, so, so much as I care so much at time.

Unknown Interviewer: But every now the one that you were talking about was in, in Juliana.

Bruce Glenn: no, the one with the car with Otto. Otto and Herman Huber. I heard you forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, I don't remember him telling me how I went up in the morning. Well, they walked up, one fella walked up. And then at night when they had help up there this year, one guy had left. All the rest go.

Agnes Glenn: Down.

Bruce Glenn: And they had a sled they put on these tracks and they had to break them. Yeah. Kind of stick business going around this cable for a break. You see. And he he dried that cursed sled down that hill in the city so he wouldn't have to walk on this. And because he could break it, he stop it anytime with that cable there.

But, the end to woke up in the morning. Then they see he he got up there and he got things fired up, and then the rest of the crew would get on the road, and they had a signal. It's a phone line. Went up to it, and then they have a signal when the car was empty or when one was full.

They see at the top that where they putting running grain down. They used a signal and that was full. And you to come coming to you so they wouldn't hurt anybody and get you run over or something that you.

Unknown Interviewer: Never wanted to go up the.

Bruce Glenn: Get on. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm funny. If you talk to him he's there. I see there he's had a stroke and you don't hear very good. But I'm in up and his wife would tell you a lot of stuff there to and read it really be interesting.

Unknown Interviewer: And when did they put that tramway in.

Bruce Glenn: I just couldn't tell you what year it was there. When I was just a kid, and I just couldn't tell you what year, but did I? Can you remember it there and then after a little older, just for the equipment, us kids used to go over there and play. I imagine I have probably 12, 13 years old. We go in there and we play around the family track, you know?

And boy, that thing must've been just just like that on my street down we come down on this one bench and there was a box nest up in this big tree right along the tramway track. And you guys up in the tree. I never did go up there at the top. I went up a ways and you look down below is right on this.

And oh, man, it's way down there. But you get up in there, you look at what's around right over there. It's so steep. Pretty. Oh pretty. But the old Hulk would come in and he'd bring his wings down and shoot at him and let us scream, you know. And it. I can remember seeing I was too small to go up there, because they might only get to.

Unknown Interviewer: Take their chances, you know.

Bruce Glenn: And then he was an old miner just off through the, right in that tramway track. And he dug a hole back in. I don't know how far back it was. I've never seen it, and I didn't only really, I scared of snakes and stuff that way. But he was digging for coal back in. There was all that coal, but he never, never did find anything out.

And I'll bet you who could tell you about that? Probably. How far back would have, because the older kids, they used to, we used to go over there and go into the creek, and all the boys they went to, I've heard them tell about it. Do go with them and go into this mine and all mine. You know, when I would come in, one of the biggest things I know how tall it was or anything.

Unknown Interviewer: But what gave him the idea that.

Bruce Glenn: There was coal? Well, and that's what I don't know. And then down here. Or Mrs. Emery lives, you know, the, between Kennedy junior and country level.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, yeah. That was okay.

Bruce Glenn: And right back across the road from her place and straight across, there's a fella dug one up there in a tunnel for some reason or other back, I suppose. I mean, there. Yeah. I imagine there's, some of the older, older people who can tell you more about that because they was doing any digging, anything that I could ever remember of,

Unknown Interviewer: One of the kinds of things did you do as a kid to play? Besides what I've seen around the tramway?

Bruce Glenn: I'll tell you something. When we were kids, we used to play stickers. Stickers? Yeah. You know, you you you ever play stickers?

Unknown Interviewer: Remember, you have a stick when you write it.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, put it on there.

Unknown Interviewer: And I was the horse when I was this.

Bruce Glenn: And, you know, mind you mechanisms. I have thought about that a lot. We made our own fun and leapfrog.

Unknown Interviewer: Leapfrog.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. And they see that was kind of a game. And you'd have what they call a pattern maker. And you see, when you play leapfrog, we get out and we jump. And who who was ever, you know, who jumped off our. And he'd be the pattern maker and who jumped the least. He he had to be down, you see.

and you leap, you leap over him, by golly. You know, and that's your pattern maker. He tell you what?

Agnes Glenn: Bounce ideas off of that. Is that and let's go we way. Okay. Played baseball and everything else like the boys did. Not you know.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh did you. Oh yeah. Okay.

Agnes Glenn: I'm a fox, in case you must know.

Unknown Interviewer: Flux Fox. And case, I don't know how that's like.

Agnes Glenn: Oh. Used to make a ring in the snow and then.

Bruce Glenn: I mean, like a like a.

Agnes Glenn: Cross, like. Yeah, I'm like that. And then that one guy was outside. He was a fox. And then. Then, of course, these in the middle, like they were the geese. And then we'd run around and then we'd have to get the middle and we get, you see, and then we'd have to be in the box.

Unknown Interviewer: So that would be in the snow.

Agnes Glenn: That it was now. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: But you had to come in on these trails. Yeah. You couldn't make your own trail across, you.

Agnes Glenn: Know, you had to do the.

Bruce Glenn: Trail. Yeah. Then let's give it a little. We do get out and folks are gone home. We like get oh, man, I tell you this. And then another thing we do and go out and have the magpie in the spring of the year and trying the thorn trees and we come home and a closed door open champion and all skinned up from the thorn trees, you know, that's where the magic.

I'll tell you, we had, we had lots of fun. And then we'd go of coasting. We'd coast on the crust and we dock three miles some time for the best hill in the country, the coast on. And then when the road got got nice down would be good and flat, you know, and a lot of hall and but we used to coast out in the road and say, boy, I'll tell you one thing to do when you take off out there, but these steep hills, you see it'd be for us to go out down where the sun did it.

And you come down on these steep hills and you turn your slanted breakthrough on the sun that hit that. Oh, you just kept right on the doing. And it had to be two on there nine times out of ten. But you have to, you know, the guy riding on your back and he would slide up on your head and you just went coasting down to the end, took all the bark off.

You know, boy, I don't need to do that. You know, I remember I remember one kid got to know this path and he got in that cursed thing and held. Tell me something like this rock or two.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: He was weird and twist in and over N-dimensional and obedience. And it was fun. It was fun. Bye, guys. But then we we'd go home and starve to death. Starve to death. We'd get up in the ham breakfast and maybe we'd go home to a Tupac, you know? And at that time, you know, they'd probably just have to be on today.

They would get up to half.

Unknown: An hour in just to be able to be when we got home, and we'd watch it.

Bruce Glenn: That's that's what I miss now. I used to live on fruit and vegetables and stuff that I can't even imagine. The security.

You know, so.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, now I remember. I was pretty.

Bruce Glenn: Excited. Slow down there. This little.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah, I have some lawn and some stores and a mail post office.

Bruce Glenn: I don't know, I don't, I don't know. Well, I think the know will take them.

Agnes Glenn: Think used to be some buildings in there. Right. So if I can remember you know. I'll be up there and I'm here just as said after.

Unknown: That, right on the road. Yeah. And the master stair. Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: That's, that's and go back. And then you were in the white House. Yeah. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: See I've got a four veterans in here. I found right by the place where I was born on my 30th birthday.

Unknown Interviewer: You don't kids. You were born in Kandahar.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah I'm there.

Bruce Glenn: On the back of Ridge I.

Agnes Glenn: Can't think of course.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. The war in Vietnam.

Unknown Interviewer: Well, when did you start working out?

Agnes Glenn: Oh, I was about 16 years old, I guess when I, when I first started. And we're coverage for you kind of might win games for a while. I worked out most of you know, I'm married, I did housework those days. We had, you know, the girls worked out that housework. I was about only the first one to do,

Unknown Interviewer: Stores or things like this one.

Agnes Glenn: I don't know, they didn't seem to hire them. I don't know why I just older people ideas or something. I don't know. I swear it was like the girls did. Yeah. And you went to school, and then you won't be a present here at this complex with. I'll call.

Bruce Glenn: From home.

Agnes Glenn: We walked about two miles to school. I can show you the picture of the school. Yeah, my. There.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, it's a big school.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah, it was a two room. We had two teachers at one time. Oh my God. And this, this is the old one before that. And then they tore that down. End of the first year I started that, we went to. Yeah. My head teachers.

Unknown Interviewer: So we have you had like one through 4 or 5 and one where.

Agnes Glenn: Was a bunch of 5 to 4 I think, and then 5 to 8.

Unknown Interviewer: And then what happened if you wanted to go to high.

Agnes Glenn: School, graduate high school.

Unknown Interviewer: Where was.

Agnes Glenn: On track? We had to go to two and go to high school.

Unknown Interviewer: So you had to come to town.

Agnes Glenn: yeah. And in those days, you know, we took state exams.

Unknown Interviewer: yeah.

Agnes Glenn: You had fancy. And then in seventh grade we took the geography and this is the average you and then when we, when they graduated take all the subjects in town, you had to come in and take them right down.

Unknown Interviewer: Where you learn it. Was it hard?

Agnes Glenn: We thought so at the time.

Unknown Interviewer: I quit. Well, how many how many subjects did you have in school?

Agnes Glenn: Oh, gosh. We must have had to generate. I think. And just. And that we we didn't have to true teachers all the time. The first year I went to school, we had two teachers. And then after that we had just the one teacher, and we used to play in this extra room. If I had to pay more, I didn't want.

If I didn't want to go, yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Then, here's here's the first time I ever had.

Unknown Interviewer: first time in my hands. My goodness, you carry that around while.

Bruce Glenn: Oscar Johnson's up here at the Brickyard as me about, you know, Bruce, he got the first time he ever had. I had that in there yesterday. And I said, here it is, I guys. I pulled it out and almost looked at it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. That's a, that's a that's an old time too.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. It sure must be man that back in the day. Oh yeah. When did you are in this time. Oh my goodness I wouldn't know that. Oh you don't remember that you carried it all. If you, if you don't remember.

Bruce Glenn: When there's one of the. So back to doing that piece. Yeah, yeah I found, yeah I found, I found it not here.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh I guess times were pretty big. Mean back then. Up here to my long one.

Agnes Glenn: Oh yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah I yeah you could if you had a nickel.

Agnes Glenn: But then they say that they didn't used to have pennies.

Bruce Glenn: Oh yeah. They said they used to be. They didn't have any pennies.

Agnes Glenn: Like if you're, they'll come to one question for like 498 or something like that before 50. And. No, I mean for $5.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: and it was hum.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. 505503 it's still $5, you see. Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: There would be five on that saying that the pennies.

Unknown Interviewer: And this is a half dollar. That's a nice.

Troy, tell everyone.

Bruce Glenn: One nickel.

Unknown Interviewer: One free drink. You never took him up on the free drink. Oh.

Bruce Glenn: No, I get I get that nice souvenir drive.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Did they use wooden nickels a lot or.

Bruce Glenn: Well, that's just to teach it to advertise. Advertisement. And so, you know, I got my classifications for. I back in 42.

Unknown: But I had to register with it for.

Bruce Glenn: For the service, I go.

Agnes Glenn: To drive school, but.

Bruce Glenn: I got, I got all my classifications in here by using, yeah. So I signed I had to sign up in February this 16th, 1942.

Yeah, I'd say use something like this system up here working in more foreign keys.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, you don't know. Do you mean people used to lock their house?

Bruce Glenn: Oh, yeah. You get lock, they enter you through the.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, I was told you never locked anything unless you saw the gypsies come with them.

Agnes Glenn: I don't think probably in a million, but out in the country, we never afterward were used to. At night I went to bed from the.

Unknown Interviewer: And from the inside. From the outside, but never from the outside.

Unknown: I don't I don't own myself, you know.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. This.

Unknown Interviewer: I see how you peek through a keyhole. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: That I left attendant good to know. My brother and his. My name is a victim of Christmas.

And he was in the wrapping and he wanted to see you. And they put him out, and he's trying to peek through the keyhole. So he just figured that the the son was trying to peek through a keyhole. So he blowed in the keyhole, of course, is an old house. Knew how it clicked and dusted everything below. Desire full of that boy.

He sure he had the 50 year. Yeah, yeah. You bet.

No, that's. There's some. Now, this one, this one here still work. That's a that's one of the past keys.

Unknown: and,

These other.

Bruce Glenn: I got I got some pat keys. I know. There's some there I've had for a long time. I don't know what to dig into this, but. Yeah.

No, I guess it was. Meaning they there during the other regular light on money. Did you see them George Johnson sold over to these. So you.

Unknown Interviewer: Know.

Bruce Glenn: And the whole board all kind and picked up real nice it I wouldn't say at all 14 to $15.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh collection keys. Well.

Bruce Glenn: I got I collect everything she said it's all junk.

Unknown Interviewer: I tend to keep these old things. Remember back on how they reuse the thing? You know.

And you were talking about how how many horses you have harnessing them up and.

Bruce Glenn: Oh, well, if any of them went down to the cockpit, even they son they farm together and we go out the plow. We had four, seven horse teams, and of course each fella took care of his own horses and you see. Yeah, I mean, I didn't I didn't take off sometimes who would get cold right when I was all plows and after your horses have been worked a while ago, but you didn't have to drive it too much.

You know what? That's the way to keep warm, I guess. Just to stay home. And they used to say, I'd rather ride and freeze like a man and walk and free and walk in. Freeze like a dog. They used to say that with heels.

Unknown Interviewer: because you were lying on the side.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah. But then, first of all, they. And they were walking. Probably put three horses on that. Do you ever see him to on the working farm? Well, you seen this old one?

Agnes Glenn: We probably.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah, yeah.

Bruce Glenn: When we home. Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: That and three horses.

Bruce Glenn: On three horses on that and say you know you just take off from that. And that was starting right. The horses stayed in the fur. You just you just kind of held it. You know, you didn't have to fight it or anything like that. You know, like you do a lot of things but had to be sharp, right?

You know, oriented, pulling over, digging out the other big.

Unknown Interviewer: The fields around here.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: Did you ever do any work on any fields that were being cleared?

Bruce Glenn: No, I don't think oh I have, I have a little bit not too much. It's a racial stuff that we no one you, me over there, we. Tree stumps right off the trees about this high. And we made wood now and it's what the coal the deck part. And we made wood down most kinds of things. And then we went in the tractor.

We pull these stumps and there's some brush in there. And then we have the tractor on two and five bottom plow. And you go real slow. And he'd ride the plow, you know, and he took the motion down in, you know, it's going to slow. And then it turned out that's the only, only groundbreaking I ever done written out or something like that.

But, and then he blew stumps there too. And then I used to get a kick out. I can still see the dirt and mistakes fly. Yeah. Sometimes they put in the shot and it just really stump up and it break it all apart would work in the part. They let it dry in the fall. They don't make fires.

We didn't have the bird right down. Take the roots and everything out of.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah you we have to go after the roots, you know.

Unknown Interviewer: And what did you get to go to town. Much when you like.

Agnes Glenn: You you want to. You know, I don't know. We didn't care. I don't think we didn't.

Bruce Glenn: We, we scared. We were scared to death, you know, at to town. Hey, man. You afraid somebody look at you. You know I what you. Oh, man, I tell you it. Yeah. The kids grew up, man. Jiminy Christmas. It was it was. It was really something. We'd see somebody coming home. They guess we'd get out of sight. And I do know some stranger around,

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Me too often. Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: Oh, no. It was kind of neighbors. And they were neighbors. I think we were better up in.

Bruce Glenn: And they used to. Used to tell on me folks to lean on Fred, my brother and I don't know, I told the old man our our neighbor there he was a jolly old time I gosh, we got a four horse team of boys now, you know, it gives them days for team. What helps them. Yeah, yeah. And we had 414 boys then and it.

Oh it's kind of mild from our younger brother one. Does he know the dark haired picture. He was killed uneven Jima. Yeah. Using using serious gender. But they still for us to live in and to the girl to. You know that's our two granddaughters. I said.

Yeah. And they're big two. It's the oldest in there. She's 14 and 15. And by that she told us, I'm.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. Isn't that supposed to be full grown when you were a girl? Oh, my.

Unknown Interviewer: Wasn't 15 now.

Agnes Glenn: Oh, yeah. I don't think she or she took that much.

Bruce Glenn: But they was concerned about their mother, and she got hurt, and I'll tell you that, you know, and they, didn't didn't somebody ask William how her mother was or.

Agnes Glenn: Well, they they didn't tell them. They didn't tell them. You see, there wasn't thinking about it. And, Joe, I think cooking and helping cook at school. So they said, what, your mother's all right or something like that. She's probably all right. But the way she she said.

Bruce Glenn: She said, what did she say? Why shouldn't you be?

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, yeah. That sounds more like an answer for that. Yeah. Me.

Bruce Glenn: So this woman called her side and told her to and direct. And then, of course, the angle. Hunter sister. Older sister, you see, and tell her to shut up. You know.

Unknown: But when they had their.

Unknown Interviewer: Horse and wagon team, did they have any accidents? No.

Bruce Glenn: Oh, gosh. Yes. Ever run away someplace? All the time and then. Yes, down to Kimberly. I want give me a funny feeling to go by I mission Agnes. But we every time we go by there, there's an old fellow black lived up to live there. He was always quite still children to somebody and bring raining down to Kendrick for something.

And the run away up there coming down the grade and coming down I this made a circle up and down mama point I did this called an get go deal. Fell out and broke his neck. There. And you know, I was just a kid. I don't know, I don't know. That's your mother. Me. Because I knew it was a, you know, we all fell and broke his neck, you know, all these years.

Oh, somebody had run away or something like that. And, I'm working, and Hawks's one time, and he had to run away with ten horses. The cliff has been busted down the main hitch, and he had onto a disc. And these horses are on the way in at the end of a big black merry Widow. And she was quite slow, and she was usually a big fat, too.

He says. The last thing I have seen on this rig and go up behind her, they must have hit it up for the rear end pretty well and tipped her over. I could see her is said engine gets to tipping over there and they went on and stripped the harness off, but we found bridles and butt chains moving out in the hay and we went to when we went to cut hay or the horses run split from the girl.

It is because it had a lot of power. They didn't, you know, tended horses, you know, you better listen and sometimes, you know, time. And then this one I worked for one time. Him and his brother. There was a plow on. And his brothers behind. That is him, Carol. And then. And and these leaders broke loose chain busted.

Or, Clem has been busted on the main hitch. You know, this really was hooked on to. They just went right up the farm. I guys, you know, you had too good for a horse in the lead. You wouldn't leave that for a week. Just pick that up through. You know, I don't know, Carol. He was a stand up on his plow and one horse, one on this side and two on the other side.

They just take this game, pile up and throw them out into there, and they put in your skilled team, I guess. And he said that to. He woke up like all that rascal was sold him up. He was an old country doctor and he sold him up and he asked for a smoke. Here, I'll give you a smoke.

He said he gave him had a special brand of cigarets. Had his name printed on what? What they was was dope to see. And he gave me one, and he said, I took a few puffs of that and well, I just went off to sleep like. No, normally this,

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Special brown cigaret. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. I had the laying down and the poor old fella died of cancer. I never forget that. And he had a dog he take with in this old, rough little country doctor. He called him purp. He's a boomer, and he was a bulldog. And. Somebody poison. He said I'd kill that some and be sad if I ever found out who he was and my daughter, he would have to feed.

He did. Guilty. But that dog is always with him wherever he went. You're. That dog became uptown. The dog is right with him. Mind his own business. Mind him. Nichols was. And he talked to that dog just like you would a human. You know, he's a he didn't have any family or anything. He's a veteran. No, I don't he was pretty mad.

It was a lonely place.

Unknown: No I don't have no, no.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. I don't know a lot of those old things. And then one time I was over home and they just come back from church and they heard the same old doctor they did. I only get drunk sometimes when he's out, you know, and he heard somebody come down the road, just a cousin and a runaway. You see additional people just to get on that run down the road and charge the horses that, you know, hold him down pretty well.

But then put that down the tongue and come down and hit in the ground mountain. And of course it scared. So dad got a the horses and stopped him. What in the hell doc says you doing out there? He says, I come down, stop this runaway lodging. If you want to get away from there, I can take care of my horses.

Well, I thought maybe I might help you a little. Doc, he said that? Oh, is that you, John? He says that maiden name after that. But he was just fine then. I'm sure glad to see you. Is if you.

Unknown Interviewer: Ride with somebody you.

Bruce Glenn: Didn't know it. Well, I'll tell you. You know, he was. He was quite the guy who went ventriloquist. And you know what little. He came up home and he told his voice back in under the table and back in the corner. And of course, I swear to God, be scared to death anyhow. And we get to looking for that one.

Oh, I tell you, it's a it was really, really something some of that old.

Unknown Interviewer: And just sounds like quite an interesting character. So you heard of him.

Bruce Glenn: Say he was, and he told me that he was a him and some other guy was out in a 50 gallon barrel and the saloon had just closed. And Kendrick, when it went dry. And this year one old guy told him, he says, you been down that old saloon. They said, 50 gallon barrels back in there, get you one.

And he told who it was that was with him. But I don't remember. Anyway, they took a knock the head out of that 50 gallon barrel and opened for ring barrel. Something for you. There was a pound of tuna back in the field, right to the head of that barrel. You see them and they called them heads, you know, and it was neat.

And that was in the whiskey, see. And that give you the headache and also give it the color of whiskey. So you taken to the cut me off a chunk about that long off the end of that he and he said, I thought, my goodness and you in the back. And he says, I took one sheet of that and that was the cheapest drunk I ever got on in all my life.

You. Hmhm.

Unknown Interviewer: You know that corn squeeze. It's really saturated America.

Bruce Glenn: And then there's another old guy and and there was Scotty Wilson. He came from Moscow. When there's a putting the railroad down through here and made it camp down to Kendrick. There's one log cabin in Ken. He told me when he went landed in camp and, piece of work. And he was. He's on the bridge crew and putting a bridge across the Clearwater River.

And the river was high. And he said to me, he's going to drive a spike. And we got an argument. He's going to drive it. And his partner said, no, sir, I'll drive. And he said, been stooped over there. And he says, we raised up. And evidently he says that he must have been dizzy or something. He took too little of that.

He fell into clear water, and they never did find him. My gosh, he said. I walked off the job and I gripped him, and I'd worked together all eight years, he said. I walked off the job and never went back home, but he went up above Kendrick up there, my nick, and got some good farmland, good location, you know, went up above can we can go up on the side hill up there and the hardest place to get in.

Do you ever seen a homestead at that. You and and how you didn't get up on it. You don't get some good farmland because you see at that time, you know, that was in the 80s and 90s, you know, when you look down through. Wasn't it 19 and 2 or 4 when that when the train run runaway down the grade.

Here I met Kendrick, then Juliette. It was the that's as far as a railroad went for a long time. And then and then they finally got it in Houston. And they had three saloons. And you were in a winery in that little town? Yeah. These are Schneider boys that their Juliette was named after my sister. And they they can tell you a lot of history know about Juliette.

And they, they also worked for the on this. You're traveling. You sound too, you know, they. Yeah. And they but they're they're both gone now that guys. Maybe just one or both. Back. Straight back. I should've never got married. You know.

I'm not sure.

Unknown: I don't remember who.

Bruce Glenn: Did you ever talk to Eugene Taylor down there? Do you? Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: No, I haven't had a chance talking about.

Bruce Glenn: Well, his dad, his dad has been down. He was down there for a long time, you know. You see, he went to school there. And Julia, I think he. You graduate high school graduate? Yeah. And, he's he's got a guy, and he's he's got a pretty good memory on date and stuff like that, too, you know?

Unknown: But, A little bit.

Unknown Interviewer: Ago, your wife was telling me about her. The two room school where she went. Oh, yeah. He good. What about your school?

Bruce Glenn: But it was in Fairview. They called it Fairview, right? I don't know one thing about it. Did. I remember it had one of the clearest school bells that I ever heard. Oh, I'd give anything if I could get Ahold of that bell right now. Oh, my gosh, you could hear that, man. Do you need a clear up to Leo at three miles away?

You know, you could hear that Bell listed claim that I should. And when it was, it would be nice and still. Now the bell to have. Nowadays they have a dead sound to them so that. But that one didn't. I never will forget that. Yeah, we went there and.

Unknown Interviewer: I mean you a good student.

Bruce Glenn: I don't know, we probably we probably had their mind on something about, you know, at that time, you know what I said. But. We had them reading and writing and arithmetic. Now that was the main ones. And we had to have that penmanship. Did you have an you in school? Yeah, a little bit. Say nothing at that little thing.

Just a roll and by and you, you.

Agnes Glenn: Sit back you know and and we learn from we did we hear those others recite all the times and we don't look at it. We learn a lot, you know. So yeah. From them. Yeah. I mean you know what I say.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: They have their classroom class one.

Unknown Interviewer: That you are supposed to be paying attention to, that.

Agnes Glenn: We we weren't supposed.

Bruce Glenn: You it was doing on. And there's no school. We we pay stickers of school and also and the over and then played ball to the other play and you know I, I don't recall that you get 2 or 3 kids. Do you need a full house. You, you call it on the house, you go. We hit one of them.

He had come on your side, Nancy. You know. Or if you catch him, touch him with the ball. He had to come on your side, you know. Oh, yeah. And I remember how you did. Sneak around the house and keep out of sight and get right on you. You. Yeah. And you ran down the old schoolhouse and went to all to really all the old country school to turn down anymore.

You know.

Agnes Glenn: That there's Lions Hall down here. That used to be a church at. No, it wasn't right there at North the it was on the other way. Yeah, but they were used to be at church there and they used to be Church Oak and they were vandals. Was that up on the younger vandals that featured.

Unknown Interviewer: So there were two churches in the North. Yeah. well as you down, was.

Agnes Glenn: This, this one down here.

Unknown Interviewer: No I just.

Agnes Glenn: Know it's a mission. It's a mission. the Norwegian church that was in town, that was down there where he's got his greenhouse and

Unknown Interviewer: A lot of the other church at Nara, and one was a mission and one was, I don't.

Agnes Glenn: Know, I don't know what that one was on the hill that. Oh, my gosh. Did you go to one of them where we used to go to this this one down here. One of them. Yeah. Or do you know what library to did? one. It was unexpected place. One was for Mrs. Harmon. Harry Sherman. Oh, okay. Yeah.

And white House was up on the hill. Is up on the hill and then downstairs near the in that the way you pronounce it and, Yeah, at the bank. They live there now. And then there was a road went up, up that way. And, that's where that this church right here in town.

Bruce Glenn: Okay. I remember and they move this church in.

Agnes Glenn: Oh, yeah. I don't know what that is. Did quite a while ago, but it doesn't seem like it's been so long.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Somebody told me somewhere in the 50s.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah, that's about right.

Unknown Interviewer: Well, they must have built it nice and sturdy.

Unknown: Go past all this time. Oh. Oh, yes.

Bruce Glenn: It only built anything them days. It was sturdy. and it. I can remember it used to be a pebble around the home of you. Too broad. So would y'all note and then take a timber, you know, only be 40ft long or something like that and get it lined up. And they had those instead in that stick right down in that middle one down here to hold it.

You see, it is broad action. They started tapping on that and get to the top and you would come the gypsy pile for that. You didn't have that pretty good shape and you got back down.

Unknown Interviewer: Just all.

Bruce Glenn: He did. Yeah. He'd had to do what they knew they'd hit here and they'd be enlightened along in this spot, and they'd be peaceful about that long. You see, when you spot them loose. Yeah. And then when you get back on the spot, right off they score.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Up and down and then come.

Bruce Glenn: Back and take more. Yeah. I think all the scoring was fighting anyway. Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: No. And then what was that. Was that the foundation or was that your wall.

Bruce Glenn: That was for the foundation. They put down piece like that and then they put piece up on the plate. up here, you see.

Unknown Interviewer: That would be an old log too.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: And, up in that world, that barn there and bench cutters and. All right, who would your notes. The guy that you the timbers for that and the eight they all one piece on plate and they. I don't hear one of this much value here lived on that school again when we, Yeah. I'm gonna tell you, if you get out there, go in that barn, the timber timbers old and you'd that frame the frame in there.

And I'll tell you, it's really it's really something to look at. And then they're pinned, but they bring it up, you know, they'd be a hole in that. And I've got the drill down, down here that they used to have a one like they used to have for the bought these holds for the pin. You see they'd make a hole in there and.

Agnes Glenn: I, a girl selling Christmas cards if you tell me or anyone. Oh no. She didn't have friends for Cheryl.

Unknown Interviewer: Yes.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. It's that's what they didn't much of that when you were a kid.

Bruce Glenn: Oh yeah we did. We sold, you know. Yeah. I got one down here. That's. Oh, it just looks like brand new. And then I got another one that's an old timer. It's got two cut and teeth and the raker and the common saws and got caught. Cut the teeth in the raker, the.

Unknown Interviewer: Okay, the rippers, the little.

Bruce Glenn: The raker. The raker is the rig that pulled her sawdust out.

Unknown Interviewer: so this one is this one in the picture has 44 case in, right? Yeah. All the way across.

Bruce Glenn: And and this other one down here, and there's a he's got two cutting teeth in the record.

Unknown Interviewer: Now why would that be.

Bruce Glenn: I don't know it's a known so and.

Unknown Interviewer: Softer.

Bruce Glenn: Look at the back in the back of the saw is almost sharp on the teeth. And what it's mitered down the teeth is the back. So it will pinch you see. You know, and.

Unknown Interviewer: Did you have to do a lot of firewood to.

Bruce Glenn: Say we did it? And then we rode up to home. Dad had chickens, cattle, pigs, horses. We had everything. And us boys. And you never got to give up like we took care of them. And no milk. Their own cows. You know them really well. When you said Mountain Lou come to the barn wasn't too good. But then I actually did.

You sitting on the open coal board. Sometimes you be cold. Something as I was in the old county, the whole of Michigan, we open up. Oh, gosh. You have to.

Unknown Interviewer: You all know in my hand. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Oh, yeah. And then get kicked out of the barn most of the time, you know. No, no cows reared back and they, they need to let you have up to them.

Unknown Interviewer: Why.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: And then what did they do was all in.

Bruce Glenn: Well I'm sure they.

Agnes Glenn: Used just hot cream.

Bruce Glenn: And they used the same cream and they made butter. And they bring that to the store, you see, and trade it for groceries and then, cottage cheese. That's, that's where I got this. Got to live milk and cottage cheese. If we had that so much to home, a great big pan. And then what you just did, you did.

You didn't thrown off. Now you take the what was left and you feed to the pigs. so you see. Yeah. And the chickens. So you didn't.

Unknown Interviewer: Have to buy or, you.

Bruce Glenn: Know, you know, the chickens and stuff. They did, ways on the American winter down here. And we fed, milk. I said to buy in this year, supplement and stuff like that for the chicken.

Agnes Glenn: And yeah, we up there for ten years. Yeah, I. And when we first came here, everybody around here had a cup. We got a cow and a maple set of cow dances up there. Yeah. And but I had a cow.

Unknown Interviewer: Was just just pardon fiber.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah John Johnson okay.

Unknown Interviewer: Having a car now.

Bruce Glenn: We're here with a that used to belong to the Troy Lumber Company where they can place it over there. I got that pasture from old cow land and they had demand on it. What do you remember the barn? It. Can you pull it toward down? You know, up to this end with a larger table? I met my little cow in there and Joe Johnson's grandson, he was over here saying, like, I wouldn't say, you know, he just watched me like a hawk.

I guess he had to go and help me. Milk? Yeah. He got so he can milk a little bit. Norm. Was he ever proud? You know? Yeah. And he came over. We give him some green Milk Duds in there sometimes, you know, until he be. So do you would take that home with you and they would separate to turn that separate.

Unknown Interviewer: Now how does that work that I always that you just let it sit.

Agnes Glenn: And you can. We used to do that before we had to separate a but this other thing you have this big bowl on top, you know, you seen about you know oh great big bowl on top. You put your milk in the and just crank it. Turn that up. The cream comes at once about oh.

Bruce Glenn: What what was that bald spot supposed to turn around. Oh gosh. Enormous speed that that went to that milk went down in that. That's what separated any.

Agnes Glenn: Picture in there.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, the turning of the inside separated the milk.

Bruce Glenn: see, this spout came out of there and it went. In just cylinders about that big the disk we called it. Yeah. And went right down the center, those cockeyed things. And I never could figure out up to speed how they've done that yet.

Agnes Glenn: But there was a lot of these little this said 101 another. And then you had to watched all that.

Bruce Glenn: Oh, yeah. The milk with the milk went all through that, you know. And pretty soon you come a little string of cream out, you know, like.

Agnes Glenn: That's pretty funny. Have it strange on that one.

Unknown Interviewer: It's come from being from Sweden directly to north.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: Did they homestead someplace else? what? Right.

Agnes Glenn: They need to know how to, That's brother, you know, let's go. I was talking about parents who going some that take the interview.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Oh. Did your parents homestead?

Agnes Glenn: No it wasn't. No. They bought. We only had 40 acres. That one seed. And of course, before that we lived in different places, like family, lived on titles where he was working out. We just did their house. Oh, I see.

Bruce Glenn: So don't. Yeah. That's true. Well.

Agnes Glenn: Okay. This is mama's home in Sweden.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh.

Agnes Glenn: Her where? She was raised.

Bruce Glenn: Up above the high dollar place. Used to be a sawmill. Yeah. Just went up from, bend bottles. And the Erickson boys said one one the Halloween night, they went out and took some little guy, buggy and dark and took that cursed thing is, put it on the roof, brother. Just remembering that and, you know, leave Augusta on the night.

And they took that and put it up on them and put it back together again. left it left it set right up, right up on top.

Unknown Interviewer: that's picture memory.

Agnes Glenn: I'm kind of proud of it. Oh, okay.

Bruce Glenn: Here, let me look at the all time best is the way they. Yeah. The.

Unknown Interviewer: And did they come, over to America after they're married.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. The other two. Two. My sisters were born over in Sweden. Oh I all the sisters, we were six girls. My one boy.

Unknown Interviewer: And your families those days didn't that.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. Dad used to say get one inhabited. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Because they're headed to.

Them.

Unknown Interviewer: Now, what are some of the other things that you made out of your milk crate besides.

Bruce Glenn: Changing gears cooked with it? Yeah. Cooking.

Agnes Glenn: And then another thing, when you make cheese that way, we used to boil that down. What is that? what do we call that one? I don't know, I guess kind of looks kind of like peanut butter. You know, you keep it cooking it, and I never liked it. I don't know what you call it. It's kind of.

It's, I think I don't know what anybody. That's a good sweet. But we used to do that here.

Bruce Glenn: We talked. All good.

Agnes Glenn: That's great. Cream. And,

Bruce Glenn: She makes it. She makes one of those old dishes, you know, you and you pick out her.

Agnes Glenn: You know her sister?

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah. And you'd get a kick, and she talks. We'd like nobody. And she's just nice to talk with you.

Agnes Glenn: What do you think's more to these things than I do?

Unknown Interviewer: Well, then you spoke Swedish at home.

Agnes Glenn: Oh, yeah. You bet your own time. We knew that before we picked up things.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: And are all of them my own sisters, they have learned at school. But, of course, everybody in school is. They knew we were all part of the Swedish settlement up there. So everybody else know what all the all the kids stuff. Sweet. Excepting one family, the bathrooms. I think we're Swiss. I think.

Unknown Interviewer: How about you teachers?

Agnes Glenn: She didn't like that. Oh, she didn't know. It was just the same as using cuss words. You say. You say that if you got stuck between. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she she didn't know what we're talking about. So,

Unknown Interviewer: She was worried.

Agnes Glenn: Right?

Unknown Interviewer: If I say, you know, couldn't you help each other a lot? Oh, I bet my English, if you could translate. Oh, yeah. And then.

Agnes Glenn: Come back. I was gonna have it when I started school. Then I knew quite a bit because I heard from my older sisters. there's three older, 3 or 9. Three. Yeah. So it.

Unknown Interviewer: Was. It wasn't so.

Agnes Glenn: Hard. No, for me. But I want to say.

Bruce Glenn: Our oldest sister boy is up there one time and he's talking sweet, you know, and he said, then, you know, I can hear that kind of talk. You said, and, you know, that kid went on and they never he never got married. He is 45 years old, perhaps 40, some 45 went back in teaching school, back to and I think up there he was in South Dakota for a while and, and he was there when they had that big rumpus there.

Oh that is.

Agnes Glenn: The the reservation in.

Bruce Glenn: The Wounded Knee and majority is a teaching school at Indian. And they had the chance to go to Walla Walla and teach in high school. And then for somebody more money, there was no sir. He says, it's a challenge back there with me, he says. So he was there. Well, he just him.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: You know, if I get more money paid, them say he says. And so that.

Unknown Interviewer: Is what's interesting and what, you know, I do.

Bruce Glenn: With the cows. Yeah. That's right. But right. That that's really something. Oh and then study. He went up to 32 Wheeler and, and then 2 or 3 teacher before him there and the kids and run them out, you know, they never quit. And you know, he got in there and I suppose the kids up, they do him the same way.

He just fit right in with the kids. And he was their advisor. And then when they went in the place, he was a chaperon and all this, and he just fit right in with them. And I don't I don't think he's right from where we that we talk to him, he just like.

Unknown Interviewer: You know, teaching is a hard thing to do. I keep thinking about those one room school room, I don't know, have all the great weapons.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah, yeah.

Bruce Glenn: They'd go to school and be 18 years old.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. With a teacher. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: They would go. Yes, they would.

Unknown Interviewer: And still in the eighth grade.

Bruce Glenn: In the eighth grade. Yeah. And you knew. Well, I'll tell you where we get a chance to see the pictures down there. But they've got some pictures there for them and they're the teacher. Well one time there he was a short fellow and he had a stand up on the block or something. So we, we told his, his pupils.

Agnes Glenn: Every picture.

Bruce Glenn: Did you. No, no it was nothing. Magnus's the 18 year old in the eighth grade. You know.

Unknown Interviewer: Some of the teachers were pretty young.

Agnes Glenn: Oh, yeah. Well, in those days, you know, you finished high school and then you went to normal for the summer. Then you could teach the next year. All that you. So they they weren't very much older than some of the older kids. Of course, they had high school. They had four years from high school.

Unknown Interviewer: How long did you have your school times? One for.

Agnes Glenn: Students, eight months. And then it increased to nine months. And that's all I'm starting September 1st. Okay. But one of the.

Bruce Glenn: It was no break and trail either. You broke your own pay off your.

Agnes Glenn: Superintendent broke your career.

Bruce Glenn: To get through this?

Unknown Interviewer: No, all through the snow.

Bruce Glenn: You know, you said you had to come home to be wet. Couldn't believe.

Agnes Glenn: Sometimes we have some. We walked two miles just a little bit better than two miles to school, because we were a bunch of us.

Unknown: Yeah. So we're driving.

Agnes Glenn: From section. To go together right in the snow.

Unknown Interviewer: Mustang. You want to get there?

Agnes Glenn: Well, we'd be early enough. We'd have to be home by 1030 in the morning to just go that night o'clock. But we didn't have to do that.

Unknown Interviewer: And if you.

Agnes Glenn: Want to do it.

Unknown Interviewer: And when you have to get up and have chores before.

Agnes Glenn: That. Oh, no, we didn't we didn't.

Bruce Glenn: Tell me like it when they start to school. When they come home, they're always hungry. Do you ever notice that? We did. We was I don't remember. We were sent home when we got home and I'd have something to eat. And we were starved to death by heart. And I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, I thought about that.

My gosh. And I noticed the kids now when they come home. Well, I'm not out of no truck for routine. Be around for the kids to come home here. They come out some day, you know, and then all of a sudden, the parents of the kids with all of a sudden realized that I was doing so. I guess it's no different.

Unknown Interviewer: What did you do for lunches?

Agnes Glenn: We took our lunch. We take our image. Yeah. Sometimes when our. Of course. Did you use your letters out for me and set them around the stove up on.

Bruce Glenn: My big wood stove? Yeah. I get to carry the wood for our teachers.

Agnes Glenn: and the teacher. Did the janitor work, too, you know, come to school in the morning and build a bar. And so. And do the sweeping and everything.

Yeah. But then they got away from, from from school. And so they had to work. Okay. Yeah.

Unknown: I wish did they make very much? I don't.

Agnes Glenn: Think so. I really don't know what their wages were, but they didn't make very much.

Bruce Glenn: Like, I can remember when a teacher got a $60 a month and.

Unknown: They thought that was more. No one. Can move more than that now.

Unknown Interviewer: So let me just.

Bruce Glenn: Say, you know, it's up nine in the years. Is it. It's it's really something. What people don't want them anymore and, well the government's a wonderful surge when it comes. And they pay him to be in contact. So the more they make the more income tax they get. You know, it's kind of kind of disgusting way too, because when we went to work over to Archie Mays, we bought bacon down and Leland in the store there, you know, and there's a little town and we bought bacon for $0.18 a pound, cured, cured bacon grease.

And look, look what it is today. It's just right at $2.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. Yes. I believe an exorbitant answer to, fight for cancer today.

Unknown Interviewer: Going on sale for 63. Nothing.

Bruce Glenn: No, no, I'm into this. This whole time stuff is really something.

Unknown Interviewer: What were the stores like? Did they have sales like they do now and stuff like that, or that?

Agnes Glenn: But but you know, we then go out and help ourself. We went to get up to that counter and, and I can't wait to lose my job and what they what we want it and they go around and get it for us. You didn't help yourself like you do now

Unknown Interviewer: What if that's your your meat? How would you pick out your meat? You wouldn't pick. They give it to you.

Bruce Glenn: Well, usually the thing they had their little towns had a butcher shop in, you know, and you go there to get your read and, commission out there, you know, there's a general store. There was no one. It was a butcher shop. And they run the meat wagon, you know, you hear them around the midway.

Unknown Interviewer: Well, I heard it as a slang term, but I didn't know what I did.

Agnes Glenn: Well, no.

Bruce Glenn: I don't think they would butcher. And during the harvest, here they come to horses on a raid and they'd have ice in there to keep that meat on. And you come around, you know, like harvest and something like that. You go out and buy your meat right off this wagon. They go on the next place. And they wanted to come here.

That's what we do. They run the meat wagon.

Agnes Glenn: I think they did like the farmers. They had a lot of their own meat.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, that I can, I can remember, the meat lady, not.

Agnes Glenn: Only cheese and great big ground. we know it's like to cut off, kind of which, like, I don't know.

Bruce Glenn: What that was. to pick them up. Yeah, I won't tell them I really had that.

They ground their own coffee to that time. And a big old coffee mill. They turned it by hand. Very big. Realty was about this because I had a hand belong to it, you know, and this year, this year Hopper had started about that and he go up like this important coffee that he would give it to and say, did that smell good?

Yeah. You you.

Unknown Interviewer: When you lived out in the farm there, anything, things you had to buy.

Agnes Glenn: At the store? No. Just kind of staples and sugar and all and and then someone take their read them and write it down. Go to that for Romeo and Juliet.

Bruce Glenn: I had the farm in my home at the time.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. Farmers used to take a whole load of grain down there at ground flour, and it was good to. Service coffee and sugar, I suppose. So for me.

Bruce Glenn: It was a no later than blow us. We just killed. She was a widow woman. Her husband committed suicide. And so he was. It kind of funny, I guess. I never really knowing that, but they told me about a good suicide. She was Spanish lady, of course. You know, a nice little lady. She take the long rail to the middle rail fence.

You've seen them have near the oh, fan. And they tore out some fence there and throw it in the pile, and she hadn't got them sewed up. And there she was with it with, and showed him the old miller hand laying on a chair. Oh, yeah. And, you know, that's the way she keep on fire. And she didn't show that on him.

When you say burn off in some joint.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, we talked about it.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. And it. Oh she was a nice, it had the prettiest hair and it was natural. Natural curly. And she put it in the middle and brought it down and put a little bun on the side. We landed here. She made me think of Charlie Lieber when he dressed as a woman on TV. Oh yes, sir. Yes, that only only her hair was nice and curly.

I thought about that lot of times. What do you think? Her, And it was around there or something. You know, she put her horse and cookies or something around. But talking about cookies now in the story. Tell me about this year. They had a big old bear on head cookies, gingersnap and even crackers. They come in this old bear and they're said open.

They go to get you some. They grab in with a hand and bring it out, you know, and you don't. You go all and pick up one the cookie if you want to eat it. Well, we didn't have nerve enough. We were too scared to get in there. He gets up and touches on it. And, after everything was open, a new on candy.

They sent him a big jar of the lid on it and his hand in hand, rubber candy, and put it all in a sack. You know, words on the scales. Yeah. And and by the. Yes, nowadays it might kill the people. 30. Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: Now, listen, the last time I was in the game, you sort of laying gloves on.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. This winter.

Bruce Glenn: You. That's one thing. My daughter, she also interested when they get the candy store. They're cheap. She is your. She would like to, you know. Let's see. I have another sister that makes candy and. Oh, yeah. Tell you if she can really make any. It's just like the box stuff. You. Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: Things and stuff. You have a lot of fancy stuff with your candy.

Bruce Glenn: And the candy, I'll tell it. No, not not very much popcorn. We had a lot of popcorn.

Agnes Glenn: And popcorn and apples and stuff like that.

Bruce Glenn: In the. You see, we put the apples in the cellar, pig, and put them in the summer, and then in the evening is sitting around there. Might somebody go get a pair of apples and bring them, hey, you guys, you can go help yourself and sit there and chop apples and stuff like that.

Unknown Interviewer: While you weren't watching television, what were you doing?

Bruce Glenn: I believe we had to. We had to make our own fun fashioned read. And I suppose you read part of it and stuff like that. I know we did it, you know, and we'd go to bed ready to go.

Unknown Interviewer: To get up early. What? Not to count.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, me to count. That was something, you know. Sit there. Nice. Do you ever see him do it?

Agnes Glenn: Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: You know that old tools that you used to pull back? Yeah. Oh, dear. Yeah, I know we had no cow here in Jersey. Of course, you was a dandy to. And, it was 14 quart bucket, full mineral, you know. And you know, cannabis. You just fill that 14 quart, too. But we had one down on the ridge on Ayrshire and Joanna just a little bit.

Yeah. It started with school and she'd go out there and carry that old gallon. She's down there and you're good. But but Agnes, go out in the yard. She'd run her tongue out just about that far and wring her tail around a time or two and burp. You picked right out the way. Right, and go live, you know.

Yes, I used to that. Used to go, Joanne, you know, used the, you know, energy out there. But she would tell was the cow was she'd get the idea. Pretty cold. Department carried the cows and I guess you go get that and she'd despair. They'll go and you spend like this year and it could be it was different with her.

Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: It must not have been around then. We would have.

Agnes Glenn: Never had gas. Oh.

Unknown Interviewer: You didn't have to take care of her. No.

Agnes Glenn: oh. I did a little bit of Malcolm, but I never was really very good at it, but I could, so I had to.

Bruce Glenn: I was off, and guess what? Why she milk. Yeah. She said you sitting there milking one time and I thought to you somebody to follow. You looked around there Joanne, Joanne on the other side. And she was like, yeah.

Agnes Glenn: I hear nothing in the evening. And I don't know, we got quite a bit. The next day I sat back and remember. But she, she that again. What you didn't get last night. She's.

Unknown Interviewer: Stealing. Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. Well, last night, I guess she knew I had to, tell you it.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, I, you know, mother raised a lot of geese and, you know. And you ever see him pick up? Until, you know, I have a something I have to hold him does is he is basically old gander. He was. He was an unreal when they got a hold of you. Then take a hold and put it in and take a piece out.

Maybe black and blue, you see. Were. And then if he got a hold on me and don't like, run up a kid or something like that. He never Horton and things wings me. Well, he beat you and, they take him and they bring their legs down and hold it. And then you pick the feathers off every or so off.

Agnes Glenn: And then maybe six months.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. The neck does not come out like that. The whole deal he does sometimes you get loose and they bite mother. And she'd hold up and slap me and it was the old goose's head loose. But she made every one of us.

Agnes Glenn: I realize I'm,

Bruce Glenn: I'm never take anything. And you know that feathered dick. It might be way 30, 40 pounds and.

Agnes Glenn: And the way that I looked, and I didn't pick it up.

Bruce Glenn: And and she butchered and she butchered an awful lot of geese, and she'd pick the good feathers and the down with it, you know, and cold. That's one of the things I said was that you should.

Unknown Interviewer: Now keep you warm.

Bruce Glenn: Say, but you had to know how to get in it when you when you go to bed, if you sit on the side, you see those fillets go out just like that. And there'd be a trumpet. And you, girl, you come out that side there. Now you I where you set them. But when you went to get it, you took the covers that you stepped over thing to eat in there.

And then when you laid down you wouldn't even go this whole. But you said at the time that you couldn't come up the side because that gas is tough. You, you push it down and then they come right back up, you see. But the feathers go out, you see.

Unknown Interviewer: because you move all the feathers away. We have sample.

Bruce Glenn: Fallout. Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: So you had to climb it.

Bruce Glenn: And your folks that back east that they used to sleep between feather bed and said.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah, there's feather groups.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. And and they'd sleep. They'd sleep between those cockeyed things. You know, I don't know how in the world we don't. I'm pretty sure that's before I met you, but I slept in this real cold. They was nice. And you? Something down here, and then you. Covers are just about the level up here, You sit down.

Unknown Interviewer: I'm. I get you nice and warm and. Yeah. So somebody told me these little fires go up right away, and then all she had to do was late. Her dry and keep warm.

Bruce Glenn: And they never. They never thought about keeping the firefighters out here. But I never did. You did you get up get up in the morning that no differently froze in the water bucket. And the milk going nuts. They'd have that stored away someplace. Got real cold. That would be all froze to you.

Unknown Interviewer: So imagine the first thing in the morning was the fire.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, we better get on the phone. Until we read the the. Do you remember cookstove out there, man? Some scraps and stuff like that.

Unknown: That's what the. Fire up out there.

No.

Bruce Glenn: I can look back, you know. No, I'm just thinking about the old, older people. That they was old people when I was a kid over on the Ridge. You know, some of my guys didn't know them. Handle handlebar mustache. You know who did that?

Unknown: Yeah. And,

Bruce Glenn: Just across the bridge and where my brother lives over there. And they sold the ground the other day for $1,300 an acre. Farm land. Just imagine 1300 other. And I said, well, good. Oh, and I can see him, given that for building lots or something like that, but hundred dollars for an acre farm. Yeah, that that's too much for.

Unknown Interviewer: You have any idea what your folks paid when they bought.

Bruce Glenn: But they they rent. They rent. They didn't own a place. And then it was sold. But it's my grandmother's place and then they can fit there to it there. And then they sold out at 40 acres. But I'll tell you, Wolford, fish told me out here that year, folks, and his place out there give $77 an acre for in the ground.

And I can remember you could buy 160 acres of good farmland for $100 an acre. I can remember that. And they usually give 16,000 for 160 acres.

Unknown Interviewer: That's a lot of money in that city.

Bruce Glenn: It was it was a lot.

Unknown Interviewer: Less than most of it was homestead land.

Bruce Glenn: So yeah. Yeah. Now, Frank, lay down there. He got another guy come on. Homestead. And they built a cabin right on the line. Frank lived one in need, him on the other. You see, that way you had to live on your homestead to prove up on it.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: And I enjoyed you. See you. They both been in the same in. They couldn't approved a farm, so they had two beds each. And I got over there.

Unknown Interviewer: You didn't get handsome.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. And there's men. That's the way they slept. And then he got tired on to leave and what was it he'd give him for his 160? Dora told me one time there, at least $1,500. He give it for his hundred and 60, but have one that was bottom money. And then. And so he pulled down. And then after that he got another 80 there.

So he had 400 acres of their foreclosed farmland. But then on the Mississippi, down by she left some to what, 100 acre or less, or as soon as he got a all that he got $320 an acre for that neighborhood. But good lord, if they could give a 1300 for him. I can't picture.

I. Bet.

And we were getting to work the horses. We want to go to a dance studio. We did out and walk right over the hill down there. And we danced my guys till midnight or 1:00, wherever they start up, and used to have Friday nights and we didn't have to quit at midnight. You know, we turn around and walk home.

Oh, by the time we get to bed, we got to get up work next day, you know, on the field. I'm gonna tell you come Saturday night, you know, listen, we had some eat. We crawled into bed. We would have been there.

Agnes Glenn: You know, for the next breath. And then we go.

Unknown Interviewer: Dancing again.

Bruce Glenn: At the. What do you see? The race of horses. As much as they had everybody else, we'd have two and 3 or 4, maybe four cold, you know, in the spring year. And they really something. They were just like a kid. They had to be up with, you know, and they get up and you and you can spoil one of them and you get one spot of unavailability, right.

Your ticket or something like that, you know, you know, and, I remember, I remember dad, he didn't get in last night just to pet him. That's what it was cold. But we had we had him all taken off, but we never teased him anything.

No. And we first married. We bola 200 pound hog for $10. And I guess in the budget, $10. $10. We done that two years.

Agnes Glenn: So that's two. And you got that whole month after being.

Bruce Glenn: You know what, half. Yeah. I went up even never had bought a homes up there you know. And so I fed and watered and I give you 200 pound home Richard.

Agnes Glenn: It never put your right. Yeah. Down there. But you can cure.

Unknown Interviewer: That was it. Was that how you used what you.

How you came.

Agnes Glenn: Pork. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Oh, beef.

Agnes Glenn: Sausage and or your sausage and put your sausage down in, make your sausage and put it down and,

Unknown: The grease bar that fat off of that keeps you. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay.

Unknown Interviewer: Big chicken really has come in handy. No, I've heard it some pork before, but I didn't know anything else to do that you.

Bruce Glenn: When I rejected taxes, they butcher there and they put this down in Brian big 50 gallon barrel. And when they got some salty, then they take it out and wash it all off it. And then they put it in the box and smoke it, you know, and that the taste was just right here with me. All they all had to do is, would have been the gentleman smoking on, you know, like the name of that man that the others and some of their relations come their time they had and they say I stole from guys.

You been buying me. Oh, Lord, we cured this. I remember we cure with you some willow wood and apple and kind of mix it. The apple would be kind of strong. And then really Willow would it kind of glued it down, you see.

Unknown: It would be there's a strong oak.

Unknown Interviewer: And you have a separate building.

Bruce Glenn: For smoking or. Oh yeah. Do we have a smokehouse? They called it.

Unknown Interviewer: But every farm has this.

Bruce Glenn: Or you putting. We're putting New Years ago but putting their money in smokehouse and what they do the butcher. Well I worked for John Woody down here one time, and he told me just a few years before that, and they got together there and butchered 24 hogs in one day. And, they got to, what they do, they cured Cliff, and then they take them out and they render out to see the ram and mix and match his lard or butter.

And they they cut that in five gallon cans or something, or big jars and all this here. You know, I tell you, it was quite a chore was going to kind of work on the woman and nowadays two would be in the house. But I guess you have to do all this stuff in. My life, like mother of the geese, she would kill one.

And leaves a dollar and a half. She sold them for. They take off my weight or $2, and she'd budget her two and a half. And she. What you call a goose? You know this one. But she. The mother was an artist. Cooking crews. Maybe she had one of these old one home leak forks. They called it. You know, it's an old time thing with three poems on it that come out, and it was just as sharp as could be.

And that thing be a crooked, you know, she take the lid off and she job that would come the grease and running out goose is awful greasy and and then the folks bought it in that thing and resold,

Unknown Interviewer: You know, to make a better flame.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, she.

Unknown: You know, I like.

Bruce Glenn: But, I suppose, you know, when I was growing up, there was never a dull moment and then had a big room built in. Mary. We turned them out, so they wanted to get in spring of the year, and he wanted to play ball. And Roy, he's two years older than I am without playing catch this year. Mayor Hall, she she was a beautiful she rolled over in the fence and got her feet into the three inches holder.

Pretty soon that old fence in the street and she began to kick trying to get away from her. Of course, you know. Outcome. Mother lives in new Jersey telling us to get over there, get over there. And I never get more. You need to tell me. Afterward, she came out and ran over me, knocked me down. And now Georgia says, and get up.

Get over there. In the Bible you can get over a lot quicker. And she just told us to go east to run normally, says.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a he's an auctioneer.

Unknown Interviewer: I would say.

Bruce Glenn: I know that he's you know, he's going to cry about the sale next Thursday. There would be a good place to go if you want to pick up some. Because I imagine there be quite a few of the old timers over there that and you don't know me just about a mile. When the old time way wasn't.

Unknown: Yeah. I don't see if I can get down there for that.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah, you bet I don't. You don't see it?

Bruce Glenn: Oh, no. You can't see your property. Yeah. Well, is there.

Unknown Interviewer: Anything left there? Oh, no.

Bruce Glenn: No, they said there's nothing left of this in 2000. But that's I don't know. Building is a good sized building to the end.

Unknown Interviewer: He was talking about how hard it was for the women back then with all the work they had to do. Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: For sure. Out. It was great. Scrapbooks, to the point. I know I've been there.

Bruce Glenn: I remember my mother and my daughter. She be two days a washing for us kids. She was.

Unknown Interviewer: Well, she had she had a couple of girls to help you get out. Your mom.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah.

Unknown: And,

Agnes Glenn: You know this we'd sit with the woman, I would do the milking in that my mom which didn't, dad might go down to the bottom and carry it back up to the house. But she'd always be.

Bruce Glenn: Here.

Unknown Interviewer: Plus all the housework. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Well, that's what Mrs. Vane, you know that. Yeah, yeah. Dawkins started life tough and want to go back to the old country. And he said, don't want to work too hard. What?

She got started up. She got.

Agnes Glenn: Here? Yeah. She gets married up with, you know.

Bruce Glenn: For sure. Nice people. Okay. Now I go down there and they used to take gas to fill their furnace. Take something like that. you know, and we got coffee ready. Oh, my gosh. You know, you want to come in that coffee and. But over in the Avon country over there, and it seemed like the farther back you get.

Agnes Glenn: The poorer people.

Bruce Glenn: Are, the poorer the people are. And and you know, and the, the nature, the. I had the best nature. yes. You know, I remember the Clarion. Those are over there. That was right there at. And I told Amos that I'd be late for dinner. So I said, you know, dinner 1230, 1:00 and I'll be home. They came out my Bruce, it's noon.

She said, Denise, we don't have much to eat. Reassure. Be welcome to to come and share what we've got, you know. And you felt you was welcome to USA. But not most of people, you know when they get up so far in the higher ups and that they. No, no, don't even ask you come and have a cup of coffee.

Unknown: Know. I don't want to.

Bruce Glenn: Use some of the things that.

But years ago. No. They helped each other. Your neighbor come over refuse a hey. And you see, they had money to give money. They cut it with a binder and they put it. But we got that big around, you see, you know, you know, I you chuck it and cure it out, and then you put it in the barn and maybe it handle left 5 or 6.

Time for you to get back in the barn. So you put in there, wore out the you got it there and then I used to lay those buttons on them straight and then using the mice in, in that they reached in green and they beat that on the, the rest of the horses. But that was really something my Indian neighbor had come over and maybe he'd help you.

Hey, you got through. Maybe be there a couple of days at a holiday, and we have. Well, how much do you know? Long enough. And he says I may need some help some time. And if it did, you went now because you didn't. You never thought about it. You see. But anymore now, how much you pay?

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. When did you and I went to.

Bruce Glenn: You know, I told about that. But Roy, Marty, they have just blown us down. And he was just dark. I remember dad was helping, you know, and he'd come up and help us. He one time, and he had a fever. I got up to 4:00 and he would give up early, dry and pitch in that door, his nose.

And he just miserable.

Unknown: You know, all the time she worked in, he, you know.

Bruce Glenn: Then they raised being to this kids. We used to go out. The whole beanstalk was big enough for like five. We got dollar a day. Boy, that was a big money for a kid to hold me. And then when he got up and got a dollar and a half. Oh, I tell you, in the boot. Well, he was in the money then, you know.

And then we ate breakfast to home and supper to home, and we got dinner. Want to be there? You see. But when we had done.

Unknown Interviewer: That was big money, I guess, to, you know.

Bruce Glenn: Well at that time it was big money.

Agnes Glenn: Well, when we were first married and I can't remember what they did, our great fun. Right. And that was right. And they were, you know, and doing that. Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown: Yeah. They were behind.

Agnes Glenn: You I hear the buffalo over that hot. And, you know.

Bruce Glenn: When you see your face down on the column, things in different, you know, hundreds, you know, and the people are a lot different to, you know, it's just people, of course, move around Lucknow, you know.

Unknown Interviewer: Those days. Did you did you say you knew the lake or was.

Bruce Glenn: I was down in the big show the other day and and our youngest daughter coming home. Bruce Howes, World Trade Center, world trade. I mean, I said before that we're in the street, the wonder of the world, the people in it wanted to give me a bad time. And she must have heard that because she just laughed and laughed at that.

You know, she you know. She didn't stay married very long, did you know?

Unknown Interviewer: She sure didn't know. I heard quite a few things about that. You know.

Bruce Glenn: I don't I don't know. And he had so many bills and he didn't care where you worked, you know, like that is too bad.

Unknown Interviewer: But I heard that they both had second thoughts for they ever got married situation there.

Unknown: Yeah. Oh, yes.

Bruce Glenn: I don't know, but I didn't hear that to mean this woman never married. You know, they come to you pretty soon. How many times you been married? Just once. Oh, God. You say 20.

Yeah. We don't have to be the meanest and the best to go.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Any any way you describe it, you know, it's the best.

Bruce Glenn: But I ain't say wondering like this time with.

Unknown: We live every day. And so,

Bruce Glenn: You know, after I retired, I thought, my gosh, you know, we'll go out and go places, you know, not till the time I went for two years there to in the hospital the whole time. Yeah.

Unknown: Found out about, you know, like out of town, public.

Unknown Interviewer: Expenses and all.

Bruce Glenn: But you know, something like my sister. Well. And he comes down here, he married my sister was younger than I am, and they was making their marks on her down there. Why don't you come down to the club, down the kindergarten and guys have a good time and enjoy yourself? She looked down and says, you know, you've got to leave your home to enjoy yourself.

She says there's something better with your home and you know there's something to that. Do. Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: Back in the old days, we didn't go places to go out. He families knew.

Agnes Glenn: What it was like, like our daughter was. But we never thought of having a babysitter. We'd always take her if we didn't. I don't know, we had to take it. We got nothing of it.

Bruce Glenn: We take what? We take her and show her and tell her. And I think I've done.

Unknown: More good than anything, world, I guess. I think everybody goes every day and ready to go to the baby sitter.

Unknown Interviewer: Well, when people get upset, they take your kids along. Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: You don't want them.

Unknown Interviewer: But you did things as families to. Why didn't you when you were a kid?

Bruce Glenn: Yeah, yeah, it, Joanne, it was low hanging. Just made a dress or something out of some scraps or something like that, you know. And she looked at her mother. You don't even never think I'm going to wear that. You sit.

It was a little less.

Agnes Glenn: Expensive in the country. Sure. So I think some days on it I.

Bruce Glenn: Thought, yeah, yeah, sure.

Agnes Glenn: Like that. And I tell them what I don't know whether it's on the bottom of it.

Unknown Interviewer: And everything up with it.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. I just thought he, he's really like that for that. Like some.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: I don't remember it. Well I think she probably did. I don't remember it. Yeah.

Unknown Interviewer: She didn't ask to wear it though.

Agnes Glenn: I think, you know.

Unknown Interviewer: Well when you were a kid did you have a lot of clothes.

Agnes Glenn: No. Yeah. And then, well it really we didn't have enough. You know, now and people have so much and you, you can't wear them out. But I don't know, we never did. And if there was anything I don't know how much we wore. We had to wear that. But I remember that there was much left because then and then nobody had very much.

Bruce Glenn: I remember I got a pair over just a Christmas.

Agnes Glenn: Pair of shoes, and every.

Bruce Glenn: Time I say I never get these ripped proof, maybe double like this, you see. And they come up to here in the pocket and then we soon across here for the pocket. And this is double. We break that up down here and then we go someplace to have between the children.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Oh yeah. Yeah yeah I never get that. But you guys, you know.

Agnes Glenn: We might be open for probably all summer. I don't think we did that because we had you, but, we wanted to.

Bruce Glenn: My dad came back in North Carolina. Some people didn't have shoes, and they'd come home and he would come to church with it. But dad, every time I couldn't wear it cuz they said to go barefooted. And they said most of didn't have it. She was wearing.

Agnes Glenn: It as an excuse.

Bruce Glenn: And he said, you know, I can remember carrying your shoes up inside of the church, sitting down, put on her shoes and socks and go to church. And then we get outside the church. We took them off and carried them around.

Unknown Interviewer: You didn't want to wear them work?

Bruce Glenn: Well, no, they saved them. So,

Unknown Interviewer: Or else they were too small.

Bruce Glenn: To take out. Aren't any of when you went barefoot the first and then you pushed around the pews for a few days, you put that flattened out there, you know. Oh, gosh, that was awful. You. Yeah. And then so bad.

Unknown Interviewer: Fever. Yeah. What did you have? like school clothes and your clothes and work clothes.

Bruce Glenn: It's got no, no. And all is all in one. I remember, you know, we had to do short pants for suit. I used to get so disgusted with them and they came up knickers, I think I would go yeah. And come up and they button up here. You don't hear me? Oh yeah. Very long. So I have to keep her socks up.

They had a harness that you could wear, but I can't go guide harness. You know, the people push socks.

Unknown: And I used to be too disgusted.

Bruce Glenn: And every time you run your socks off of that stuff.

Oh, did I ever tell you it? No, no, I wouldn't I wouldn't trade. Well, I went to Republican to do it. Now they've got, they have the cars carry around so much money and all that. and we miss it. We we just we had a good time.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. This is a handicapped table.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. That is another has one that fashion.

Agnes Glenn: I got to stand green stamps. Oh. Did you, like them from the political icons?

Bruce Glenn: we have quite powerful, right?

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. All right.

Unknown: you remember any of the programs or things like that you used?

Unknown Interviewer: Did they do that?

Bruce Glenn: I remember one kid got up from school. I'll never get this one. And he said he had to recite a piece of poetry. He got up there and he says Mr. Finney had to turn up. And he grew behind the barn, and it grew and grew. But the turnips did no harm. But. I know I, I never that to teach about the kids at school.

That's why, you know. But he did have a piece of poetry and he.

Unknown Interviewer: Got it, you know. No, no. You know, remember your own poetry there.

Agnes Glenn: You somebody else, somebody else.

Unknown Interviewer: Well, that's more.

Bruce Glenn: News to me. After the shooting of Dan McGrew. We used to. I used to recite that last Christmas.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, yeah. Yeah. My mother told me that once we had to go to library and look it up, she'd forgotten it.

Agnes Glenn: Do you use a cream commercial I don't have.

Unknown Interviewer: Great. Absolutely. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah.

Agnes Glenn: That's right. I was the one who was running to get rid of it all the time. And then I told him once, what if you had gotten rid of that cow? Well, we don't have these.

Bruce Glenn: Be large. We're going to cook for Jack Driscoll. And he used to tell that maybe I told you that news and tell him not to do all Irishman without navigation. You like to tell I don't the Irish in he come home and oh, he is all beat up. I see eyes of black. Everything his wife says. Why did he get drunk in the first place?

For it wasn't the first place, the last place he said. And you know about him. There's a lot of truth in that. Know it in the first place. You go into that last place is what it gets.

Unknown Interviewer: No, no, you were telling me one about a guy with his hat. Yeah, I forget that now. That's right. He was black without a hat or without regard. Anyone could have said he was going to town to buy a new hat.

Bruce Glenn: Oh, that's old Billy. Give you what you want? I took him and another fellow over the top of the hill there from taxes. And you see the town again, Rick. And you said they take me, you take me up the hill. And he said, you let us out. And we walked down. Now I was going to come up and get Amos, but I guess you I, I ain't nothing, you know, I took him over there and I don't come back to work the next day.

He didn't have any hat on. He was an Irishman with the same old fellow Milwaukee who could project risk before Jack was married. And what did you hat, Bill? Oh, I lost it. Yeah. You know, a diner can make that celebration. I lost two hats and my reputation. They said he got drunk. You think? Yeah. I to have some a reputation.

I think we forget everything. Oh, he was wasn't he was a corker that I, he told about the old, German federal tax rate and all that cooking for him. He lost his wife and he had a nice apple orchard there. And the cows kept getting it. You know what made that old man queasy? So mad? He says if he can put a fence to keep the cows out.

Agnes Glenn: That would live to work. Yeah.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah.

Unknown: Oh, yeah.

No.

Agnes Glenn: Okay, okay, okay. Swedish. Know what paper cow people know.

Unknown Interviewer: I've just heard about all this week.

Agnes Glenn: Oh, Spencer, you know.

Unknown Interviewer: And what were some of the things that you can did? Let me work today. Oh, well. Oh, no. I'm. I didn't mean it. I know, I know, know you are you? Yeah. I mean, you know, nowadays I go to.

Bruce Glenn: Movies and I went.

Agnes Glenn: To do that and.

Bruce Glenn: We went to movies and we went to dances and, you know, the head round hole up here to Helmer.

Agnes Glenn: Yeah. And then one over here.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. But. Well. Hilmar. Yeah. And see.

Agnes Glenn: You know, I think that, you know,

Bruce Glenn: the old man Lord built it there. George. George Washington that. And, I tell you, he's the fella that used to run the saloon, and they follow the railroads up, you know?

Unknown Interviewer: So we have fought this one pretty well.

Bruce Glenn: They take it they take and move that. And then when they move to another town, they see movies only following up, maybe with the payroll. you see, I see, and. He built a hole up there, and they went to go what they called around Hall. They had a big fireplace in the middle and Wall Tavern. He was he was quite a musician.

And, Oh, Lawrence got to him up there. They'd won, and they going to play a piece and then stop and rest. You know these guys, you know, Lawrence said to you don't do, don't do that is good that he said, I'll tell you, I want you tonight. If they give you a good hand when you play a piece, give them some more.

And he says when they get halfway off the floor, it's all you know, Lawrence told him. He said, you start playing the if you let that crowd get off and get to visit and you'll ruin your dance. So more talent. He agreed to do it that way one time and see, you know that they had one of the swellest grounds up there.

And I guess that night there was. And people come here from Spokane down up there to him or to those dancers.

Unknown Interviewer: Up, you know.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. And it didn't make it didn't make any difference. You know, we didn't have maybe maybe he'd pay the third time guys for a good piece.

Agnes Glenn: You know. And then they had it run over here just about when you went with them. Two people, you know. Oh, I'm on my way.

Bruce Glenn: Oh, no. No, I'm Terry and so.

Unknown Interviewer: And that was it. Shake ground or I didn't.

Bruce Glenn: Want.

Unknown Interviewer: To go around.

Agnes Glenn: Was just getting rid of that. They say to pick roller skate.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh yeah.

Agnes Glenn: Another thing is that they used to have his, in each little town had a baseball team, a baseball team, and he used to play baseball. We used to go to them and then, his brother and, his brother in law. Now, he used to play two handed. Three probably never did have a picnic. And then I goes to play ball in the afternoon.

Unknown: Comments. And then.

Bruce Glenn: And the way they'd smooth the floor up there, they. He had a Ford Model-t Ford, though. Pickup. You can take 3 or 4 bales of hay and they tie behind that. They drive right around. But that little the swing out. And if you ever noticed when you drug hay or floor boards or something like all that, get just as thick as Batman and Robin and boy, the orchestra was in.

Agnes Glenn: The middle, wasn't in one of them. But in one of my questions, fight when it decided Elmer.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah.

Agnes Glenn: And up here it was right. It was right in the middle.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, I heard of it in the ground dances before. But I thought that because everything's. They're dancing round and round in the middle of buildings, you know.

Bruce Glenn: And they couldn't they didn't have what they called a circle to stick to.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. That was around.

Agnes Glenn: Kind of like a square dance. Similar.

Unknown Interviewer: No circle to.

Bruce Glenn: Dance around the circle, you know, and and like I said, I got two hands when they. And then they signal, they tell you what to do in this. You know.

Agnes Glenn: They had to say no to that square dance.

Unknown: Calling him. No.

Bruce Glenn: But that fella up there, after he played that one night and see how the people enjoyed it there, he played like that all the rest of the time. We ever played there. So, you know, this whole party was just. He was a little bit of a dried up guy, too. He wasn't as dumb as they thought he was against with.

Unknown Interviewer: He's one of the pioneers from up there.

Unknown: Yeah.

Do you.

Unknown Interviewer: Remember when the first car started going.

Agnes Glenn: Around? I don't know man. Erickson's they, they were our neighbors. Well they were my parents. Really. It was my dad. Oh. And I remember that the first car they had.

Bruce Glenn: So don't be careful what you say, because, Johnson and wife of her.

Agnes Glenn: Choice, she was she was an air chief. Partition. Mr. Johnson's room, sister.

Unknown Interviewer: Oh.

Bruce Glenn: So you got to be here?

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. What do you think? Yeah. Very funny. And then I can still figure out.

Agnes Glenn: The codenames for my. And she was terminated even after my good birthday. He passed away a few years back.

A cook I didn't realize you. But anymore, it's before anybody in town. I don't know, I know very few there on the hill or who lives in those houses. I think you. Two different.

Bruce Glenn: Well, who gets a new one up here? Do you? No.

Unknown Interviewer: No, I saw a lady looking at it the other day, and she was going to ask me what kind of coverage she wanted, so I figured.

Bruce Glenn: That they must. Yeah, yeah, they said they just sold and this house over here, don't they? They're putting a lot of work into that, too. You have to change the bathroom around. It had to. But new signing on and you got to take the whole roof off and put on new roof. And they bought. But they had to do that before he get his loan.

He had problems. Do that before you getting home, you see because they had the tin roof, which is a wonderful thing here in the snow slides off. You don't have to bother with it. See. And, I was just talking to Agnes about you and the other day about it, and he said he could he lived in there for a few years and then done it when they got, put it up on it.

So, you see, they he built comfortable in there, but no, sir, the loan company would let him do that totally. And change that all around. Pulling you along.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. The old days. These town shake roofs. Yeah, that's the best one. Did they start news at ten?

Bruce Glenn: Oh, well, ever since they've had it, someone number started up. If it I must do over again I put them on this. No I'm gosh yes I I'm going to put them on the right here and I know but I'll tell it. It's faded game yardage got some down the kind of yellow I thought have read color to go on that is no slide of no trouble at all.

Have another go either.

Unknown Interviewer: Are you three.

Agnes Glenn: Up your top.

Bruce Glenn: Yeah. See if I got it live on. You should be able to eat one meal, but I got to live on around here.

Unknown Interviewer: You have to eat cookies and.

Agnes Glenn: I don't have to go get either.

Unknown Interviewer: You know.

Agnes Glenn: Anything sweet?

Unknown Interviewer: Oh, yeah.

Bruce Glenn: You know, you know. And little Shawn Farmer, you know him? Don't. To eat that mule down in one day, he's making cookies and. Oh, I just love him. I used to, but I can't find one. Yeah, maybe just a little fella and come in my joint. But what I need for something like that, I'm going to go shoehorn yet as many as you did.

You said you use a what? You mean. But I always told Agnes. I said, do they never come here? They never come in singles out in the fresh cookies I don't compares. I used to say, you get to talk to me.

Unknown Interviewer: Yeah, but were you able to say that at home when you were a kid?

Bruce Glenn: See, I can remember they used to make them great big sugar cookies. Great big things. Oh, boy. Was a good.

Agnes Glenn: And that was about.

Unknown Interviewer: To change them.

Bruce Glenn: And they make it and they make biscuits there in the home and they'd make them in the pan. And now they raise up about that high and, and you know, stick together like that too. Oh they say, well I suppose we ate a whole pan and then we lived on corn bread, wheat, wheat bread stuff that way. And of course we had milk, butter and they get the corn bread.

Indeed, it was more butter on it to hold on to that. That was good. I got a little mail now. You grind Queen.

Unknown Interviewer: You have sunflower seeds. Can't.

Bruce Glenn: I've seen them. But when you need the seeds at that time, is it no saving for the chickens? Yeah, well, yeah, we get give them birds or something like that. You know, I know we can really. But I'll tell you what we did do with Halley's black walnut, and we do with you gentlemen. Let's say, boy, I did.

You got two things. Hard. Shell them old black. These are the best, you know. But make sure we got a good playground.

Unknown: I know, I know, I can. I guess you. I was wondering about that.

Unknown Interviewer: Ginger snaps. That machine is cookie to do. They keep warm and I think so some of the afternoon.

Agnes Glenn: On this morning because we didn't have that on us. Different thing either. You know I'm.

Bruce Glenn: Saying you know I did.

Agnes Glenn: We had five pages in Oreo okay. So you know they they didn't use too much chocolate. I don't remember. We didn't have it at home anyway.

Bruce Glenn: There's a neighbor left over here for Spencer. He got it. Henderson's chocolate cookies. And we get cookies or something. This one little fella take his whole share. He wouldn't tell him he didn't want. No, he didn't want any or something. And they took him up and he had the bed and he said, angularity squared. He stuck it piled up about so high in under that, I don't know, was up, you know, in that corner where the kids got the phone and then.

And then. Yeah, root beer and stuff like that. And they got big and rounded. He took.