Latah County Oral History Collection

Clara Payne Grove: A number of such.

Emily Moore: Places will not fail to fail. But no, I don't think you good.

Clara Payne Grove: Well, otherwise they'll go straight about that, right? Oh, sure. No problem. No foul play. Anybody ever saw that show? Some special competition for? A new level. Had to get groups out of it in any form in the street.

Emily Moore: And nobody wanted it.

Clara Payne Grove: So they don't believe it. It shouldn't be a problem. Well, I should know. Critics in this group is all in one kind of. Vision. We are. I don't know what the English two guys you probably don't know.

Emily Moore: Is this a particularly tall or when will you come.

Clara Payne Grove: Out with this? For sure. Especially big with us. Who? Will have the courage from my father to a beautiful, great big with Gene. Of course. The location of the everyone's well taken care of by no cautious and two people groups just big that.

Emily Moore: As we can see his arm on my arm.

Clara Payne Grove: And his palm will cut you. The team couldn't come through them.

Emily Moore: How big of a cloud to the use, How big?

Clara Payne Grove: A cloud didn't use him.

Unknown: So, people, the little I one cloud.

Clara Payne Grove: If you think you're a big farm, how can we help to happen? You didn't. Next.

Emily Moore: Well, did you save any of the powerful? Did you save any of your fellow?

Clara Payne Grove: I have a little medical.

Unknown: Don't appreciate. you took some bread. Oh, my God.

Clara Payne Grove: Don't go to your ever in it.

Read through Islam all in one finish. Because if people do like a practice it. You have been publishing a long enough privilege and. Oh, by my way, did you hear on the radio just from our original jurors here. Julie Eisenhower was there for her hospital. Should be.

It was something above $2,000 for five days. Just for the rumors. Really? It doesn't take him anything but room. Correct?

Emily Moore: Sir.

Clara Payne Grove: Look, that be.

Emily Moore: It sure must have been different. When?

Clara Payne Grove: Well, I presume was a sweet gift from one of her who wrote for the under for her mother. are sitting room. of course, 1 or 2 bathrooms and them Jewish or.

Emily Moore: Where were you ever in the hospital? Here. What about?

Clara Payne Grove: I've been in the hospital here. Gosh.

Emily Moore: That we did. Would you know what it cost? Way back in 1925 or so?

Clara Payne Grove: I don't have.

Unknown: No money to.

Clara Payne Grove: And. I think one patient came.

Unknown: I'm sure it was probably cheaply.

Clara Payne Grove: And they came up nine years later. Came. I was there just one night, and part of the day.

Emily Moore: That was still alive.

Clara Payne Grove: Even when I went on stage instruction, I was going home. Now. I couldn't. I thought I was going, and she tried to cheat and wake me up the night before and give me a sleep. Yeah. Good. Did that from I couldn't get to a good a personal sleeper, you know, that would rather not take it to the doctor after I said I'm not careful did my home I should be to try to put that neighbor in, and then I'm going to break it.

Cost.

Emily Moore: And she let you go home?

Clara Payne Grove: I just shouldn't have anything the way they want it and know so. Well, I don't know that I was going home whether or not for me or not, I was going home. And then she said, well, no, you know, I went, I quit and shut the door. I knew what she wanted to live after. Should be pretty dark.

Big stuff. I shut my door, touch. My house. And she stood on the other side of the door, and there were just a minute to get rid of.

I said $18. I had been there for 24 hours.

Unknown: I to go to work, and I.

Clara Payne Grove: Was in the 40s and sure.

Emily Moore: I thought, well, I have depression. I was going to ask you what it was like in the depression here in Moscow.

Clara Payne Grove: Oh, it was a and all the time after the depression, all these years, the people frightened and afraid of everybody and everything and, just just come up from every major depression.

Unknown: I'm out of here. German.

Clara Payne Grove: I could take the $5 bill.

Unknown: Which was quite a lot of money of the German. and, and.

Clara Payne Grove: Pay the.

Unknown: Water the night the bomb and groceries.

Clara Payne Grove: And.

Emily Moore: Were you working at the time? Was it hard to do?

Clara Payne Grove: It was awful. Do you have anything to do?

Unknown: Awfully hard. Just almost impossible. And thank you. You go home and.

Clara Payne Grove: Thank the staff for this. We have starved.

Emily Moore: Do you think that that,

panic had to do with why Moscow was so unfriendly? You had said that Moscow was an unfriendly town.

Clara Payne Grove: Well, presumption of presumption. But still, at that time, there were not many people trying to settle here.

Unknown: The students were coming home to.

Visit here a long time before I ever heard of a marriage student.

Clara Payne Grove: This house right here. The first two make sure my students, And then a Christian in.

Unknown: The town of the student who stayed. And then later they.

Clara Payne Grove: Refused all of the students to live in the barracks.

Unknown: On campus. Yeah. What was your reason for that? You. You were one of the mortgages.

Clara Payne Grove: On the village.

Emily Moore: Wanted her payment on the university buildings.

Clara Payne Grove: They have the pays from the army. Then go home.

Unknown: I was here,

Clara Payne Grove: I think I've been here a few years. Two years. I've been here some.

Unknown: Years before the real come. June, we have the.

Clara Payne Grove: Memorial hopes she suffered for it. I don't know.

Unknown: When I was page of the village. some years later, the year when?

Clara Payne Grove: The buildings, the road. The federal army can.

Unknown: Lift me up, Rosemary. And for a living.

Clara Payne Grove: But anyway, number five.

Unknown: There was an army camp. to.

Clara Payne Grove: Their buildings or just, Well, just a long building. Just one of my,

Unknown: Just lightly put off, Greek and on foundations. But anyway.

Clara Payne Grove: The over a hundred yards, some huge.

Sheet metal screen.

Unknown: On it went to worship. There was 82.

Clara Payne Grove: There were still music only for a punch right back. In the end, this.

Unknown: Or you can then for ten years or. Two screws over.

Clara Payne Grove: Oh 16 I don't think I'm gonna be in there somewhere.

Unknown: For that long. Six I know.

Emily Moore: You said a woman held the mortgage to the buildings on.

Clara Payne Grove: University and had the two buildings there. Okay, fitted of them up for student presidents. Who were she?

Emily Moore: Who was the woman who held the mortgage?

Clara Payne Grove: Oh, never. Oh.

Unknown: Never heard who she was. And why she had not.

Clara Payne Grove: She wanted to.

There was one student who went to register, and he was there for his freshman year. He and couldn't understand. But on the problem up here, somewhere on the edge of town that had been vacated. And so they moved in and nobody cared, even making a difference because he just stood there empty. they got a few good structures, changed the stone.

They've been there on the three.

Unknown: Hundred choose for story have throughout history where we live. There was a.

Clara Payne Grove: Dress up there.

Unknown: And they said, no, we can't register you on the campus.

Clara Payne Grove: You said you must. You. Yes.

Unknown: We can register here this year. I'm not sure. On campus. mortgage.

And finally, he just.

Clara Payne Grove: Simply said he didn't. And then last year.

Unknown: I left university. And I'm going to live there this year and go to the university and walk out. So later he went back and he said, well, we found that.

Clara Payne Grove: Our special DNA that you couldn't get there. That said, we lived there. I guess I graduated for anything on that.

Well, I'm surprised that there was ten years in that to. Surplus building when I lived that portion. Really?

Emily Moore: You have said again that Moscow was an unfriendly place.

Clara Payne Grove: Well, it was self contained. and it had no wish to be over there and self contained. Of course, like any other place, we have more or less foreign population.

Unknown: Well, or foreign population.

Clara Payne Grove: Is perfectly willing to have the town stay as.

Unknown: It is or grow or whatever. If it doesn't bother them, they don't understand.

Clara Payne Grove: But they know it's their culture. So they were no help one way or another. They were just here, and that's all.

Emily Moore: What kind of people,

Clara Payne Grove: I don't know so much about. There were so many here or here, but there were some.

Unknown: And I remember back, know.

I know.

Clara Payne Grove: In the 50s.

Unknown: I guess it was. Meant to. families came in here from some, the town.

Clara Payne Grove: Took them up, mid picture.

Unknown: And they would find a house they could rent. here, several, and similar furniture to fill a refrigerator.

Clara Payne Grove: They do everything.

Unknown: They come from the people I love to the.

Emily Moore: About back in the 20s, were they still as friendly them?

Clara Payne Grove: Learned remarkably.

Unknown: Well. I don't know any about how much coming in. And I was first here. I've been here forever before this began.

Clara Payne Grove: I remember it so distinctly because every now and then I've seen people with them on.

Unknown: Name one of these families. I can't tell you.

This man was a contractor, and I think, anyway, he really just pushed forward. And you have to be very independent. perhaps mother, who?

Emily Moore: But you yourself found it, friendly when you first got there.

Clara Payne Grove: Well, I remember this because, the refrigerator.

Unknown: Had been filled for a month, and the woman went to the refrigerator to get out something.

Clara Payne Grove: And here was some thinking. Oh, poor, poor cook. And she slammed the refrigerator and she would not work it. And gosh, oh my gosh, I'm taking the bacon home and taking it away.

Unknown: So she remembered that.

Emily Moore: But when you first got here and then no one did that for you. But when you first got here, the people were unfriendly. In general.

Clara Payne Grove: There were Lynn, Ramona. They are not home. They were self-contained.

Unknown: And the of the station.

I don't know how very changed to. Well, they couldn't have known. Not from what the grocery. I know how many new Christmas fruit have come in the last few years, but I think it must.

Clara Payne Grove: Be 15 or 18. You're just.

Emily Moore: Well, I got there wasn't much competition between resources, were there many different.

Clara Payne Grove: That you were supposed to train and for one right here, nothing has been not good enough. We have David and Penny's. there was the change. Girl came in first.

And didn't stay.

Unknown: We soon left. And we have a celebration. I hear, they have to change. All here.

Clara Payne Grove: And we have a lot of personnel.

Unknown: From midnight before the age.

There were two women lost here. There was one place in.

Clara Payne Grove: This town they could rent.

Emily Moore: Just because they were from outside.

Unknown: And the cost to come from my work. Shop around and go to farmers where.

Clara Payne Grove: People can for for from us doing out here. And they work here.

Unknown: Conversion, doctor. I don't know.

Clara Payne Grove: How he got here, but he in the papers here to put a bullet through procedure.

Emily Moore: Because of the, friendliness.

Clara Payne Grove: you know, he killed himself right in his office before they found, some form of tree. When she came back, he wasn't at home, so she went to their office.

Unknown: He was out for school.

Emily Moore: Would you say that the old families of the town ran Moscow? Did the old families of the town run Moscow?

Clara Payne Grove: I think they did. I think they did. You say that.

Unknown: Was the day that Stalin. And there was a three day mission.

Clara Payne Grove: The one in the East who went much higher lives. Three here. Sure. For that. Well. And every he was.

Like this huge corporation or sooner I think it was president, chairman of the board or something, you know, and he went off like that.

Unknown: And it was.

Clara Payne Grove: Very hard on the stores for correction.

Unknown: They were doing business and it wasn't any money. People didn't know what it was.

Clara Payne Grove: It was hard on the story goes on. The people.

And closer to the town.

Unknown: After his, the preferred of the 62 government, the water company, which.

Clara Payne Grove: After I came.

Unknown: Here, I think it was there year after, it was on the where through federal grants. Six and this seven street.

And it was just a one. And there was a wooden shop. this part of the.

And cleared. anyway, go from this bridge here, the end of the block. It was a wooden sidewalk. And in.

Clara Payne Grove: One place it was just right.

Unknown: Down the river. And. the.

Clara Payne Grove: People.

I don't know, they drove as far as going in. That they drove so far.

Unknown: That I recall two of them. in the market. Really? And I know the men came here.

my brother, he wanted to borrow a shovel.

Clara Payne Grove: And I know he came to the door, and he said they had a requirement, to get to.

Unknown: Someone that was going to, Yeah.

Clara Payne Grove: They told them no, just keep going until so. And you'll come to that.

Unknown: Point where they could walk right straight from here. And there were like a boat ramps and.

Clara Payne Grove: And they paid for it.

Unknown: After a hundred.

Emily Moore: Which is true. But Moscow was a rough go. No.

Clara Payne Grove: No, Moscow was a very quiet, peaceful, clean home. It's true. They have their places recommended it, but they were kept quiet matches with the undercover and make no pretense that they weren't there to know. because it was for sure the more or less. And were just there.

Unknown: As part of the term. One officer was, upstairs in the building that used to be the,

There were. Here. Was an officer. And there was.

Clara Payne Grove: There was this place in the park. And then on the other side, the officers.

Unknown: And and, Christopher. And the little farm, those three officers.

Were moving well enough.

Clara Payne Grove: Was Under secretary.

Unknown: And, recruiters.

Clara Payne Grove: I'm not quite sure about which.

Emily Moore: Well, what about the sheriff's department? The sheriff's.

Clara Payne Grove: The sheriff.

Emily Moore: The sheriff's. I mean, did they have a hard. They didn't have a hard time keeping things in order or. Would the lawman. Like like you mentioned Sheriff Summerfield. Or you can do, did the sheriff's. But the sheriff's the policeman quickly. Did they have a lot. So did they have a hard time keeping the long.

Clara Payne Grove: The only problem they have is one politician came in, they tried to keep the liquor out of two. Other than that, they didn't have so much to do. I think we had, three police. I think that was just the chief from the mainland. And, I mean, that's all we have. Who did? They didn't have much to do.

There were years after.

Unknown: I came here to on the hot night cop right out there in.

Clara Payne Grove: The front yard and sleep right out there and, receiver. They're all up called, and I am on damn right here.

Emily Moore: So there wasn't much crawling.

Unknown: There was very little. That was that was very little.

Emily Moore: Then.

Clara Payne Grove: They did, how come your time.

Unknown: Prohibition trying to my book.

Clara Payne Grove: There was no disturbance about it. They merely trying to get the liquor.

Unknown: And destroy it. So I'm not fighting? No.

Clara Payne Grove: No fish or guns or anything. It was just peaceful and quiet. And I felt perfectly safe. I guess it must be that.

Emily Moore: Well, in prohibition, were.

Clara Payne Grove: There many.

Unknown: Bootleggers? There was quite a lot of liquor. And it was, I think it was during the prohibition year.

Clara Payne Grove: Our ACTU three membership members went over on the courthouse lawn and watched the sheriff destroy what he had done. And then. And then he took you out.

Unknown: Out onto the lawn to.

Clara Payne Grove: You know, where he did it. And he took it. One bottle with this, six bottles of this 200 or so place, you know, where he did everything. And here I believe.

Unknown: In broken hearts. He knows anyway.

Clara Payne Grove: Because it was his way of getting.

Unknown: Rid of. I don't know why he took it out on the lawn.

Clara Payne Grove: Because he may have been.

Unknown: Asked to run to. Anyway, that's what he did.

Clara Payne Grove: You think? Unlikely. Yeah. Take it to the safe house. They didn't. You took it out of there much, too. I had a picture of it for a long time. I wonder if I could have that picture anywhere. No, I don't remember him. Oh, look that. See, if.

Emily Moore: You do find it, I'd love to see it. Oh, look, she knew she. Oh, that's.

Clara Payne Grove: Remember, have.

Unknown: You seen it for a long time? I wonder if there's anything else from the movie. I don't know if that.

Was,

An old Hollywood.

Or.

Clara Payne Grove: Before that was before it was a little town. He took it and turned it into a hospital.

Emily Moore: The old Groopman Memorial Hospital. Memorial hospital was.

Clara Payne Grove: Painful. And then it just hurt my hometown. for years, I.

Unknown: Think before they built on anything here. I guess they're still here. And just the, the original.

Emily Moore: Was it both the hospital and the hotel at the same time? Was it both the hospital and the hotel at the same time? No, no, he bought.

Clara Payne Grove: Them. He bought it. Related. Again to.

Emily Moore: Was that the first hospital that Moscow had?

Unknown: No. We have another one down by the year.

Clara Payne Grove: The page. No, there was no seeing houses.

Unknown: Down here on the corner of the road saw a doctor at the hospital where.

Clara Payne Grove: I presume.

Unknown: He didn't have more than 4 or 500. And I was nervous to run, because.

Emily Moore: That must have been awfully small for the whole town.

Clara Payne Grove: Yeah, well, it was sufficient. We didn't go to the hospital then because we got sick. We went to bed, drank licorice tea or something and go.

Well, I sure wish I would have the crown on. I have the crown. And he came anyway. One day, just as it. And he told me how it truly. There's some work to be done. He said that he and his brother settled there, and he said, come on, we're Sweden. And of course we can't get him rutabagas. he said, we got a nice big field of them.

And he said, some folks came along one day. Undercurrents work. I show about 310 girls and I had to stop a of them go. And it was such a nice place. A rutabagas or a sugar. They just simply suffer, right? There were people in schooners came by. There was a shooting star. It. I'm not a bigger set of crow.

Emily Moore: Did he tell you how Troy got its name?

Clara Payne Grove: His name, I'm sure, was awesome that, two of the brothers who homesteaded here in England. And they built their house, their cabin right on the line, half of it on one side and half on the other. And, the one who held the land here outfitted his half of it with a stove covered and chair and everything.

And the other one did the same over here on his head. Each one lived in his own land. well, there rest all that. It has to be so far from the line. But they were right on the line, and nobody care. Nobody said anything about it. And they proved up that way. I think it was either while I was at Crawley or shortly before that.

And I know people told me about it. Just before I went there, the people bought two used chairs and took them out and gave them to these two brothers. They still had just their old kitchen chairs, but they had the but they were to use the chairs just like for like two brothers. Two of them. But it just amused you telling them.

But, so I, I settled on the corona because.

Emily Moore: Did you ever hear how Troy got its name?

Clara Payne Grove: No, I think I don't don't know. I just don't know if I did.

Emily Moore: When you first got to Troy, did you start working on the paper right away? When you first got to Troy, did you start to work on the Troy news right away?

Clara Payne Grove: Oh, I didn't, you know, I, rented a house further down on Main Street and done my first 500 and up, and I lived there.

Unknown: For a while. I was the.

Clara Payne Grove: Young woman who were employed in Troy, I don't like, rushed from the market store, to this male milled around. do you know what these names of the people in Troy?

Emily Moore: Sure. I don't.

Clara Payne Grove: Know. Michael was.

This mills from here was teaching.

Emily Moore: She was teaching in the.

Clara Payne Grove: In the school. In the high school. do.

The girl, the name or something? I don't know what the name of this from Lewiston. I was teaching in the grade school.

Unknown: I don't know.

Clara Payne Grove: I'm trying to think of another high school teacher's name.

That's right.

Emily Moore: But what's more important.

Clara Payne Grove: She was one of the most favorite teachers.

Unknown: And one of her kids. Where?

Emily Moore: It's not important.

Clara Payne Grove: The name is still here in our school. She was from Nashville. But anyway, the young woman there got together and they rented the house and lived there. actually, while I graduated College Park, I could say, people supercells show up and people for them, to. We have a store room upstairs. They had, clear bedrooms enough, you know, for themselves.

But, this room, they found everything they didn't want anywhere else. that was on the left. And that's what.

Unknown: I had that room and,

Clara Payne Grove: Well, we had no home show where I got a man who had to cook or furnish threshing to bring his cooker up into the backyard. And that's when I lived out there. And I kept asking them and worked half days in the paint job. That was when I began working in the print shop. And, well, I have been.

I have been.

Unknown: With the girls. Quite a while. My mom.

Clara Payne Grove: Tried to think, how long.

Unknown: Was some?

And it was for.

Oh no school window.

Clara Payne Grove: Which took the teachers away. Okay. But, one other trolley girl. they wouldn't keep the house in order just for the two girls. So they had broken up with the house. And I have gone back into the for. ten. And pushing. So. And here. But one day Lester Jones Jonesboro. Jones showed me as we were walking up to their help.

Would you like to buy this push? And I said, yes, I want you should run the school to the back and make up the papers. So we went right over there and they got their first, at the print shop, and he was marrying, Rich widow from back home in Montana. So he was anxious to get rid of his paper, and he would hunt, I presume he had been trying otherwise to get rid of that happened.

But anyway, I just took a project card. What he should remember what it was. Anyway, we made up the papers and that was a great job.

Unknown: And we were there.

I don't know how long they were there.

Clara Payne Grove: Some months.

Unknown: Through the winter, because I remember shoveling the sidewalk and.

Clara Payne Grove: I got rid of that just before Casper graduated, just before we had planned that, I would go on with the print shop, in a car, and she would drive, keep her shift. And whether that she could. And otherwise she lived in the home. And I would go on with the print shop. My mother had a chance to show me more than a for sure.

And by the way, that big press there, when she said to be the one that Mark Twain brought across the country with him. Really glad.

Emily Moore: I'm getting it on the tail.

Clara Payne Grove: Thing for us. And, Troy, I said to be the one that Mark Twain from across the country with him and I said, I know better. He would not bring anything as worthless as that. but it may be that it wasn't for him. It was a whole fresh, that was the same one. Then about that time, the Spokesman-Review was put out on a corporation.

How long they kept their whole press? I don't know that. I know about that time. That's what they were using political pressure, but know I'm sure it was a labor market watch. The for works was pretty well given out, but I bought it. Of course, Mr. Jones didn't tell me all about that. He did tell me one thing that I'd have to put in the terms.

It was getting pretty around half a day to go up, and he. But anyway, I put the paper up one day. I couldn't get the paper out because the press for the term, well, I didn't know what to do with it. And someone said, well, you got to caution she he knows how to fix anything. I think he did.

he came over and brought another fellow with him.

Emily Moore: Which also was the.

Clara Payne Grove: I think it was Carl version. But this had been a long time ago in the 30s. Oh, Jim, you wrote this man within the current looked at the president of one, and he showed that this man with him, he's just turned it.

Unknown: All around, took hold of the handle and gave the boy a little turn.

Clara Payne Grove: No, the other way. The other way. So he turned the other way. And he said yes. And he fixed something in her, I don't know what. Water. How and if a little chief of the press working, he'd never seen the press before the book. This was to do this and this. We can do that when they have to work together.

Why couldn't anybody see what was. He. William Marvel.

Emily Moore: Did you turn it by hand? Did you turn it by hand?

You did you do all the work yourself?

Clara Payne Grove: Well, I couldn't turn the first one around and I couldn't carry the trace. And instead of thinking to have the man carry the chase in the letter one time and leave it and carry my type to it, I left it like Mr. Jones did. And every week I had a man going carry it in. I changed was heavy.

I, I don't know what I should caution, I was the least 100 pounds was really heavy. G it was, metal. the type is led.

That chooses to make sure, come type o and head right. The heavy.

Emily Moore: How many pages was the paper.

Clara Payne Grove: I bought for this call? Happened? Paper, that is to say from, company sheet until I got, ready printed pages for ready printed pages. I think there were two blank pages for me. I used. One on believe. Believe. One side was blank and one was printed. But anyway, there was blank for me. Mr. Jones had pointed out some, on our plate, and he said, you're going to need this to fill up when you don't have anything to put in some foil.

And I wonder now, I didn't say anything. And then a very short time I was using the supplement twice to charge this much. I, I had more than I could put on the blank that people have been asking. He'd been using vulnerability.

Emily Moore: you mean the Seattle people sent you news already printed.

Clara Payne Grove: People broke the news, and I got around town and found it. I was all over town all the time.

Emily Moore: Did you have anyone else news? Hunting for you?

Clara Payne Grove: Well, over in my shelf in town. I had, at least one homicide correspondent, and I don't remember who that was. But I had rich one outside. Norman. I think only one. I think that was, on average. hum. well, I have the paper. Up there. I think it was around Error Ridge somewhere out there. Anyway, there was a daughter who was away from home somewhere, I think, taking a nurse's course.

Anyway, she was in some kind of school, and suddenly she died. And they brought her home, and they kept the body up there at home for a week. Or because the funeral, I asked my, they said that her parents said that she hasn't been home for a year. She'd been gone so long, I don't think they were going to keep her alive.

So they kept her a week before I.

Emily Moore: Well, what else made news?

Clara Payne Grove: Well, there was one piece of news. That I didn't print because I wasn't too sure. Whether on sure. Going out. You know, it's kind of then if you print something you shouldn't think and trouble. Oh, who is that woman named Troy who used to teach eighth grade? What is her name? Well, you ask anybody in Troy who that famous teacher was at top the eighth grade.

Emily Moore: Oh, Anna. Anna Marie. Anna Marie.

Clara Payne Grove: Yes. Anna Marie. Anna Marie. Son till May, if I remember right. She hadn't signed her name right. But anyway, she sent me this, Bit of news that did. She, the neighbor woman had come there. Heard of caves brothers, and the two of them got out the big truck with a rock on it and put the cab in the truck and drove the truck over fresh plowed ground and back and forth over the hill.

And they got the cash all over the road. Did you ever be in that room?

Emily Moore: I didn't know they were.

Clara Payne Grove: You that put that in front of Marie.

Emily Moore: But you didn't know if you should print that or not?

Clara Payne Grove: Well, I didn't know because it was so unusual. did. Well, I was doing it in Nicorette. Never mentioned it before. I had to send me interviews and papers, and I had a column in that corner. Farmer one time, to. I've never seen anything like that. I can tell you something else. The chocolate. Good for throat. That was way back when I was living on the ground.

Father, grandfather. old Kate, the only horse that grandmother could cry. She couldn't drive at all. And she'd sit in the buggy and hold a line, and that's all she could do about it. And this was the only horse that she could have in the shift. And the old Kate came up to the gate, lay down to die, and uncle Bill tried everything he could to do for her, and he couldn't do anything for her, and they couldn't get her on her feet.

And he said, well, she's going to die. I'm going to town. So he pulled out Grandmother Russian liver, and that would be for hours. And grandfather was asleep on one thing for quite a while. So I built up the kitchen farm, which was about kit after breakfast, and one leg, which place you live? Journal. Had gotten about so hot.

I took two of them off and put one on each end of a grim shack, and tied the shack together in the middle, and took that up to the shovel there, lying there, just almost dead, awfully bloated. And I put them so that one of these sacks came just just far as I could reach under her side. And the other one hung down over her stomach.

Here, and she began groaning with relief. I hate those boots. And this one and this one got to burning right through the hide. And she made a terrific effort. We'll go home. Our feet and the gas began to just roll like a cyclone up a welcome home. Here she was up on the hill, eating grass. That's amazing. Any farmer I'd know that.

Emily Moore: Hot stove plates.

Clara Payne Grove: Or a hot stone or anything. That hot. They had an electric hot button. Better. Oh.

Emily Moore: When you were. When you had the paper, did you carry national news?

Clara Payne Grove: No one. Like what was printed on the printed sheet, but I didn't carry anything outside of the drawer in the Senate.

Emily Moore: Well, what did make news? What did make news in Troy?

Clara Payne Grove: Oh, the sun show. I'm going to Spokane on business. And somebody had heard, a couple of the women in the team last week, to, to, somebody was excelling in school. the two the teacher in Lewiston, John, had gone home to go. All this was, you know, so she had gone home for the weekend or that, her father had been there to visit her, which he was.

She got down sick one morning and wouldn't get up, go to school or she phoned her folks and her father came right up to see her. Anything like that, you know.

Emily Moore: Was there any big news in Troy McNary?

Clara Payne Grove: Well, there was, the case of the illegitimate baby. They tried to get on your man and roll like a married girl, and he was not sure they had him arrested. but, you know, sort of a pretrial. He proved with witnesses that the girl had been drunk in public, went with a girl, is drunk in public.

She has no records at all. There's nothing she can say that will stand him. So, he was just charged. The case was dropped. his father and his sister. I can't think what they were going. Maybe they had a store, but anyway, they were just down the street from me. I went in to see them.

Look, and I asked them what I should do about, the sisters. Well, of course, would rather you didn't say anything. I said, well, of course you would. But it's this way on a show the Spokesman-Review will carry you, and the Moscow paper will carry it. And people in Troy, they take both those papers and I'll say, well, what's the matter with the crime owners, don't they?

You're little, So I have to say something. I said, I have no intention of putting it on the front page on that ranch, but I said I have to say something. Well, I didn't say that to. So, So, then the rest of the trial was dropped or something like that. I just gave it very briefly over, among other news, and the feature about it all, and I don't know what good it would have done if I had figured it out, although it was a feature story.

A question from. But, I didn't see any. Usually an image from anybody and everyone undo it. I don't know what became of the girl and the baby and the. Horrible that she just stayed strictly in the house.

Emily Moore: With were the townspeople then unfriendly to the grandparents? Unfriendly to her?

Clara Payne Grove: I don't know that they were. I don't know that were a couple. I just didn't care more about it. To hurt. Us for being friendly. Crawlers came home to me, and we were right. Now,

there was, one morning. I was on the street.

I think I was starting to hurt. The girl was keeping house for the girl. So anyway, I was on the street as the men were going through the brick plant. And every man who passed me stepped off of the sidewalk and let me check. I was of that knowledge.

Emily Moore: Really? That was.

Clara Payne Grove: That was really a hammer.

Emily Moore: I had heard that Troy was kind of a rough town in those days.

Clara Payne Grove: Oh, no, there was nothing wrong there. Oh, it was just, it was just just peaceful. Was this place just like marble? There was. There wasn't a ruffian in the town. no. No.

And there was a man that had the store next to. Just looking for a job. Boys. Neighborhood.

But anyway. I remember particularly the people in leather coat, street.

And day and night for one week. another coat hung right there. Day and night.

Emily Moore: and no one thought of taking it.

Clara Payne Grove: You know, nobody did anything of that kind.

But it was as peaceable as a Sunday morning in the country.

Emily Moore: Where people, mostly farmers.

Clara Payne Grove: They were, foreign diggers.

Emily Moore: Farmers.

Clara Payne Grove: Farmers? the farmers didn't live in town much. George Smith lived in town, but he also had,

I don't know whether he called on the hardware store or whether he called, appliance shop or what, but anyway, he had, business on the street, and, this is George Smith the last time, you know, I think steel mills and I've been part of the store. she could tell you about Troy in. There are days.

Emily Moore: Well, what kind of social activities did what kind of social activities Detroit have?

Clara Payne Grove: What kind of, social? oh, I do not know. No.

Emily Moore: No, at the time.

Clara Payne Grove: Oh, at that time, well, the, One of the churches have their circle meeting one day in the week for one summer. the other church, their circle so different. And the week, once a month.

Emily Moore: What's the circle meeting?

Clara Payne Grove: There was a methodist church. they,

the Christian church. The two churches. And each of them had their circle meetings. the.

At the end of the school year. The school would have a little in the way of testimonies. Not much more. one, one big festival occasion was when the eighth graders would go out to get world class for their graduation. You know, there was an event,

Reginald Shepherd, are you are in the world. The.

You took the old Ford car? eight high group, eighth grade youngsters, to Ford. Showed them well, that time of Ford. Show them what's wrong. But anyway, tell them about it later. And Reynard was driving me with my spirit group, so, As he came to the underpass of the railroad, instead of going through the underpass for clip, he ran into one more post.

And here were eight youngsters spread all over the landscape.

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Clara Payne Grove: And, and I felt like, almost like was just know I'm trying to think like. No, no, I don't want to share with her except for my permission to play. And he received the hand injury. was very critical. And they drove immediately to the hospital in Moscow. yeah. He just barely lived for 2 or 3 days.

And then he began to recover. but I guess he completely recovered for anything. I know he is one of the lucky ones to the store here in Moscow. might maybe, I don't know, but anyway, he was critically hurt, and the others were scratched and bruised, and they appeared on the platform with a bandage on their head and then, plastic on their cheek.

And an arm bound up with all kinds of it. And then a Marie got up and she looked at them and she said, this is not a sad occasion. It's just like that big one. well, she was happy to serve another right.

Emily Moore: But where did they go to get the wildflower?