Latah County Oral History Collection

Karen Purtee: Okay, Now.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: That line and everything I say don't end there, Right. I recap a little mother was born and her last church, the Church of Sweden, built in 1799. My work or read dies when she was three weeks old. And then I left for America and came here as a road. Trains Amy faster than she knew Washington at that time.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So from Washington, I had to go and and wagons and nothing else but wagons at that time. And then she kept from the wagons. They came to her day, started doing that place. And then they they lived there for a while and my house north for dark far. And they built the church and I still up. And I was the first Lutheran Church in Idaho, as far as I know.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And I know still that I would keep it up the first hour once a year to try to keep it a thing up and.

Unknown Speaker: Well, about my mother.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Died when she was 85 and five days and then and that was a private. Yeah. 27th October six, 27th at 6:30 a.m. she grieving and she had no pain. When it comes out. She had 30 convulsions before she died. Well.

Karen Purtee: Okay. When when they came to where Cordelia Church is. Did they homestead?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well, I don't. I don't know if they homestead, but they had a place that they lived. I suppose they, they had that Cavallaro. All the songs that and then I took them to when I came to try, but once came through I think Mom, the first one, maybe all the house up on the hill. How did this was all three, you know, not a thing here Mountain thing.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And I had to dig bigger places to build a house and there and clear out so I could build. And then. And then I had a schoolhouse. I think I picture that thing off the wall and hangs over here. It's not here. Yeah, I had to walk. No time to. This is Genesee. After 1888, the arrival of North Pacific Railroad from southern states and Idaho.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I don't know what they really came.

Karen Purtee: To in Detroit. You mean the train? The train in Detroit Train.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Try later or not train even in Spokane at that time, the closest train was Kenton and he Washington. Everything went by. you had to travel by a wagon or rail hatch or anything.

Karen Purtee: It must have taken them a long time.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, I did long time. And then that then came to place like Arcadia Linville out here. That's right. They stopped and I don't know what kind of a house, but I know a dirt floor. And mother used to say, and I just saw a shack over there had, that's all I go out. But this is till I built this church and they have the armed services.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And he was here to try to keep it up.

Karen Purtee: Were these old Swedish people then that settled?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, mostly they're mostly Swedish. There are. We used to some.

Karen Purtee: Now what was your mother's family name?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Mother Ruger and.

Karen Purtee: Ruger. Okay. But her parents came too.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. Okay.

Karen Purtee: So she. She grew up there?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, she grew up there. Sure. I had here about 15 years, I think when I came to. To, Then go to college. Lived in while in back east before they came here. And that was Waseca, Minnesota. So, I. I can't remember everything now.

Karen Purtee: You're doing beautifully, That you're doing fine.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And the here is a crew that's on Saturday. I I'm sorry. I got 1890 at the arrival of that Northern Pacific Railroad. Sure, there wasn't much of them. They had the school here, and our place was up there. I used to live up on the hill there, but my. My daughter lives there now.

Karen Purtee: right. Okay, Catherine, I know her home.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: and, and then we had our church, our down here, but it's up on the hill. First name. I'll go down and, I don't know if you mind.

Karen Purtee: I imagine they spoke Swedish in the church, then.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yes, all three. We have three in here. I don't know how long, but a long time. But. And after we had one, three, three, one England change every other Sunday. well, they come from Vermont English to what they go. I do after they got through, through the confirmation, I had not been born alive for change. Ohio.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I did like that. So I guess they changed it then a five minute change back to all English. So we have it all English now and not passed or something? I don't know. I think I think we've it's really I think they're from England or something at all French or something. His his wife or from I'm from Denmark but his grandparents Esther her from Denmark, she were born I think down in San Francisco or California somewhere and saw his mother died.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Not so long ago. And she was only 61, I think, before he went down for the funeral.

Unknown Speaker: And then there over five years, either one of them. So.

Karen Purtee: Well, your parents then met in in Troy over there when your mother and father met.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. Yeah. Well, no, I guess in Moscow they were married in Moscow. Pastor, Carlson, Peter Carlson. He was our first missionary. Our pastor up on the whole Northwest is name of Peter Carlson, and he married in his home in Moscow for of. I moved out on a farm.

Karen Purtee: Now that would be out in Moscow.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Or. Well, that we were. We always went to Moscow or visit training but our land just joined up my brother and father near there. We were in Washington and we all recall or late, I me that go for a 4 hours training which is Moscow father's courses and and the had road trip home. I was too far too far and they didn't change that later for got about four or five years afterwards Yeah.

Karen Purtee: But Catherine was telling me that your house was sitting on the state line.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. While it was coming just about from there at that window from the state line. My goodness.

Karen Purtee: She about 20 yards and.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And all my sister and the neighbor on the other side would sit all last all of five stone. I was I remember that. But we were in Washington reading.

Karen Purtee: And this would be out in the what they call the Johnson Road area in near Moscow. Well south of Moscow.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: You go you go to file from Moscow and then the first road to terms with. And you go out about two miles to three miles and then you had to go by course we had to drive round first of our road, but afterwards I mean your road straight up the hill and then it made it much shorter.

Karen Purtee: For what. Well now did you go to school.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: In Moscow now. I did, sure. And District 53 in Washington, they walked a mile like farmers or school. And it just we were several with my sister, my first one. And after they got more children and we've just had a pass, we lost one just like that one after the other. But it was a while. My father, when I got married in the spring, then my Robert be at the end, all were Hugh.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Clara. All right. Well, I think I would have had to go through at that time again, pretty much. But this is the only way to do it. I said, All right, yeah.

Karen Purtee: Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So all the, the same way and all the same, I had had. So we had a lot of fun. Do you know, between each other's Because we're all on the same boat, you might say. Right. So that made it time. It was the rich people that had everything. We're all the same. Yeah, just really we had parity cause they raised that raises we had a farm, 150 acres, and then after that they bought 50 acre farm to hundred.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And then we raised on cattle and pigs and we always put them up all and, and man I need and planning to where to as it was at that time it was a swell idea but after 25 we had a lot of fun together and we had the I remember dad and mother used to make out a lot and then they wanted company or know telephone.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: You asked them to come over to dinner Saturday and Sunday for a while. We kids went around there like, tell everybody, come for dinner on Saturday. I'm finding out of number of days. And so when they had their dinner, they had to send our kids rather notes to tell them to count for dinner. There were no telephones or couldn't drive, no car or nothing.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: That's the only way they could do it. So funny how you think of it now about So we had a lot of fun together. I remember one family we went to. man, I had a hard life. boy. And I got a fine coal. When I went down, I had I combed everyone out a long time, so I got rid of that.

Karen Purtee: It was that the only way to get rid of it?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well, yeah, I suppose I was all the way, but that's all I knew to do. And I phoned them all off and I never had any trouble. And that's when I was going for school in Garden Lane. All I wanted, I made my own way in college. There and I worked for my board, for stations, for my board, and I took music and.

Unknown Speaker: I, I remember back on the dance team and.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But I was mostly interested in music. And then after I got married. Yeah. damn. I work for $4 a week. And just like any other piano, I could use a piano. And she got a really good teacher, so I came to the house and gave me a309.

Karen Purtee: But. And you got your $4 also, You got $4 a week at music left? Yeah. nice. Yeah. Now what? What did you have to do to earn your.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I did everything in my house or you are clean and everything. boy. I did everything for him also. And I then he was gone a lot. So when he was gone I gave my grandson, I said Karen.

Unknown Speaker: Already and she died. She died. I got another three. Wow.

Karen Purtee: Well, you were talking about you did your your training in Moscow.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: You're shopping in Moscow. Well, I took my training in Portland, Oregon.

Karen Purtee: you're.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Not trained nurses training in Portland, Oregon. I start training 19. I graduated in 23 for three years. From that, that would be about 1920 19 training something for my two years of that. And then I worked a year afterwards in charge of the X-ray department and the hospital. I realized once a day days, it is not a lot for Dorothy, but we had 200 beds and we didn't had a whole lot more patients.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: We had patients all over because it was no place somebody had to go for. We could put up.

Unknown Speaker: Somebody in the room or but.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I worked a lot, I think dark room here, treatment treatments for X x ray for cancer, a one man to man that you know all off and go and the neighbors they had water Yeah they took a lot of the same well and the neighbors got scared of it so so they complained So yeah we go with the doctor and the doctor.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I gave him the treatment. The doctor told me how much, but sorry. And that he came back after. Yeah. Some people who slept just fine after. Yeah. So I was thinking about and I do treatments for anything they care, man or woman. You can manage that lot. But she didn't live long.

Karen Purtee: That would have been the regular basis.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Cancer of a lot.

Karen Purtee: And then when did you come back to this area?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: No, I got back to from. I got married in 24 and I lived there ever since my husband died 6 to 6 years. I hate for 43 or 1055 October the 14th, 1969 not too long ago.

Unknown Speaker: No. I didn't live on and on and on.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And the same thing going on. And the first day I almost died of cancer there. Our next my husband's name was Albert. He always wanted to come down here because he he dropped off or he couldn't walk back. And Congress are up the hill. So we just went back to come down. So I even for that I was very happy about it.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But I provi i, i, i, I send the house up by mail. That was that course. I couldn't have taken care of now.

Unknown Speaker: And that so that was he.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Wrote down and he died and the owners Dog Mary moved on there April 3rd and he only lived in the fall over so that was long after he got down here. Then I was all alone and I had a lot to do, you know, people coming around your place and taking care. Of course, now that they do a lot of I don't whatever I help a little bit.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But I can't do it anymore, have I? When you get so many different kind of people, you'd be surprised by people you run into. I know when I came here it was nothing but a whorehouse. That's exactly what it was. The radiogram had been coming up. My man had came up at 230. So after I stepped on, something went out there.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Madam, I said, What are you doing up here at this time of day? I said, You, you write down, don't you come in here. And they walked out and then you come, come out. I said, No, I mean, you're exactly what I say. You go on down and they that now I doctor or I have this can gone anymore.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I'm not going out. I will leave this door and I'm not going to have this all around And I after that and they talk to the next morning and here you say you if you want to stay or if you want to have people coming up like this, you move. But if you behave yourself, you can stay. So she stayed and she got somebody else.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: She had a little boy about three. He this little thing. And he took the boy up through Mrs. Nelson. I lived that for me on the one that had the rising store. yeah. And she took care of our school and for my grandma here, I, I, she was the little dickens, and she had a sister come in.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well, she was a leader. I know.

Karen Purtee: Well, Catherine was telling me about how you worked at Ritalin Hospital. yeah, for many, many years. I did. When did you start working there?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well, I took care of my dream for three years where she died. I was. I was just down at night her whole life. And then after that, I came home out, and then I went back. And then I lost. I idea how many years I started to work. And then afterwards I had charges that all the department for all I worked.

Unknown Speaker: A mile from, I.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Had a long like.

Karen Purtee: Yeah that's what she was saying that you worked up until you were 70 something, You worked in the year seventies.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. yeah. I'm not passing.

Karen Purtee: The hospital has changed a lot over the years. my.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. It's a normal place now. I was back there for the 60th anniversary, and I met my classmates, so I rely on them and a lot of them are gone.

Unknown Speaker: Or I gave them a whole.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: My lifetime is so big them that I couldn't even find myself around.

Karen Purtee: Well, this is the one. I'm in Portland.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Mark. I'm. Yeah.

Karen Purtee: Well, how. How many years did you work for Griffith Hospital?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: well, I must have been about five years or something like that.

Karen Purtee: I don't know. That's a long time.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah, I ought to charge it first. But I gradually got into it and then I. Then of course, I had to have a job right down my throat. I felt so bad. I had right now qualified and I had that back. And then I got fired for that. So I had to have Operation on that and that I never worked anymore after that.

Karen Purtee: How does it feel being being a nurse who used to work in a hospital building and that there.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: A lot of life?

Karen Purtee: you do.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I love to work. I really love to work and take care of the people. Yeah, I like to work and take care of people and make them comfortable. I just tried to do that. I didn't say much about charge. Was taking somebody out with you? Are you planning to do it?

Unknown Speaker: So I don't that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: That's not a problem.

Unknown Speaker: It comes up from, yeah, you hate the firing.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I hate to fire people. You know that some I maybe I shouldn't tell you that. So on the phone, you tell everything I say.

Karen Purtee: No, we keep it and the university keeps it. And so if somebody wants to listen, they can listen to it and find out about your history.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: We had a lot of self. One girl from here, I forget her name. she lived down here. She said only bone marrow. Her father not how crazy that could be. This thing, I pray. Yeah, it is like you sit down and a patient through and smoke. I help her. I help. I keep love with every that she reprogramed it all.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And like she could live as anything is for your reason.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. That's a talent like that. That's a talent. You got to practice that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: why? I was So I wanted.

Karen Purtee: To see if you can remember going to town when you were a little girl going into Moscow.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. My. Each day I went in for confirmation. And Dad took them, took me and. And took us all around. Now, then you had to have a ride and check with them for that church down at home. And that's every Saturday.

Karen Purtee: Every Saturday. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I know. We went to church on Sundays, and I know we had to sit in the front row around for a while, reconfirmed.

Karen Purtee: That kind of scary sit in that close.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: No, I didn't. But I guess on feet from my Cabin was so much for that they didn't bother me. It's not my thing.

Unknown Speaker: That's not what I didn't bother. And I remember that they.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: We all had white dress and that.

Unknown Speaker: And she made, you know, very outside and.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I was in my black.

Karen Purtee: There we go. Okay. We were talking about your confirmation dresses and how pretty they were.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. They were white or high color. And the we were all made the same. just about the same. I guess. Maybe those are all different. And we're all her around three except one girl. I miss English, an English organizer, all. and here I had to cancel. All were good. She knew her catechism, so had to go here.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I think that she was studying here. Right. And we had to read each week, see how many chapters in the Bible we could read besides our lesson. And then we had to tell that on Saturday I went to our password. How many of us have having chapter programs that she'd be all. Yeah, I could read effort to find secret fast reader and she did find wonderful.

Unknown Speaker: And then how did the.

Karen Purtee: Boys dress, How did the boys dress for confirmation?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: How?

Karen Purtee: What did the boys wear?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: that were dark, dark shoes.

Karen Purtee: Yeah, they wear long pants and.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Long.

Karen Purtee: Pants. yeah, Yeah. Well, how. How old were you.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: When you were 15? They're all around 15. there were some older and couldn't land rolls on one. I couldn't make it in, but otherwise around 1516.

Karen Purtee: So the only confirmation class they had was in Moscow.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: All we got out of Moscow or did I tried one in our class.

Karen Purtee: That's pretty big for that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, well, frankly. Well, I think we've been in business up to that time anyway. I had a long time afterwards.

Karen Purtee: Now, how many children were there in your family?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: In my family. With them? Two by six zero. One By is a twin. My girly girl died three about three weeks old, but dressed for. Well, I have two sisters, James and Sam. And so we're all the independent and like and I live in Spokane and we're in Moscow. My brother and I are on our home base, and that's all that's left of Arnold's.

Karen Purtee: He has the whole place in Washington. Yeah, over there.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: In Washington. Yeah. We still.

Unknown Speaker: At home? Yeah, that's very near. Know.

Karen Purtee: It's interesting to. To think back about that person during her job.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: The more, you know, you kind of forget to use that. You remember somebody said something that, it's hard just like this book. So that has to be out. That for me. Yeah. Yeah. The c c 1888. Yeah. I guess back quite a ways.

Karen Purtee: Almost a hundred years.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. Yeah. And I. Yeah. This year.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. Was there anything special about leap year when you were a kid. No.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I remember my Indian Harvard story. You had to wait ten years because every time didn't come out. Even so, they had one leap year for ten years. really?

Karen Purtee: Below one. I never heard that before.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So then I think that that was ten years.

Unknown Speaker: I remember it so we can laugh about it.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Like, yeah.

Karen Purtee: Or he got another leap year from you when you went into Moscow. This was always by horse and buggy, When you went into Moscow to do your shopping?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I of everything went to Moscow. Cos it was so close to Moscow for about three miles. Yeah. And farther around the road from there while they were in Moscow. I remember here when I came down here, we were married. It just dried up. So I'll give you these for my room.

Karen Purtee: In the mud, you know.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: All the money and dry and dry here when it comes to town, our wheels went down about this deep in the mud. I right Not exaggerating. They had the rails up the crosswalk here. All four people could walk together with our wood lumber soaked up like filth. so they walked across on that one street to the other, one store to the other, you might say, that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And it was right. And our all toilet, remember? Well, I had to go to Tara's room outside toilet. We had. Wow, it's right on the street. You put it up through the doors, you can get in and shut the door.

Karen Purtee: But yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: If there's no tiles in our work and.

Karen Purtee: So. you mean it was for people on the street? Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. You got to come here. yeah. I don't know if I. If you had to go, you had to go and that's the place you had to go. what I think of it. boy. It is funny.

Karen Purtee: Well, what, what stores were here in Troy when you moved here.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Or as one man, Kaufman. I think it was company or something. They weren't here at the time we came about later, but they were a good store. And then Admiral Creighton's Penny or four years later, Victor or I was that he he was only about ten or 12 years old, retired to work for Creighton. His name was Creighton.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. And it didn't quite go by that name. And the car he'd gone up to, but he worked there. As long as you give your. And now your grandchildren are working there though. One Mrs. Peterson and her husband died all of a sudden as the daughter of Victor Astor, as Alan Ransom. That's a dollar picture expert.

Karen Purtee: I see all but they had they kept the Creighton name.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: All that kept a great name. Yeah. Yeah. And that Cassidy was named after. It wasn't the first name, but I, I think it's like cough or cough or something like that. So just over before that I can't remember exactly, but I remember talking on my you went to town, you didn't know how to get home or what. I went horseback that could, but you had to get some girl shirt from us.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: The lumber wagon. I used it up high and all. All the crap shoot down, up so much, you know? Yeah. I, I it looks funny now, but ones are funny, but everybody gets the same value for all of our lives of.

Karen Purtee: And. Yeah, that must have been awfully uncomfortable. boy.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I tell you, if the people now living now have to go back where we started, they would know what to do after that. Back because there's been such a change. And, both in taking care of me. I remember they were butchered in first and me, but we would have you hang it up and longer. Cody was hanging there, but after that it got so start to get from Aubrey.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And we kind of up and we started everything down in salt rock, salt in big.

Karen Purtee: Barrel is this beef and beef or in PA mold? Everything got.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Salt, had it dissolving. And now you wonder, you know, you got to take it in them and put them in cold water and, and can you get all the fallout from salt.

Karen Purtee: Out.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And that hurt your pride, your side. PA, I remember Daddy and Mother used to quit around five four, and I buy them for a map, get all the salt, and therefore, not all of them fry it. God. Take the salt out of the out of the park. okay. Pretty good. And I wished I had a bite.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Now I.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. So now what about chicken?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Did you stop or check. Now you kill that many a your memory of them. yeah. we get a whole.

Karen Purtee: Bunch of them and I.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Know we had the Yeah. I had quite a few seconds to think of every morning and you don't need too much for that. Yeah. Because they would be for a long time. I ran aground and I subscribe to you the other way that, that he living feeding you. So you had that by name. And then we had chicken every once in a while and that was fresh for him.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So it's of course, never cold, never. Like now you would keep me to any length of time, but I.

Karen Purtee: Just left it outside today.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Time we have hanging in the woodshed. You know, I recall the door. That door was open. We could, you know, just draw up on the high.

Karen Purtee: I see. And then just cut off what you wanted and. Yeah. As you needed it. Yeah. And it stayed frozen.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Of course, you're hard to get up the jelly coming up pretty soon, but it was hard to cut through. Was all frozen, too.

Karen Purtee: then what did they keep in you, What did you keep it in after you? When you saw the. Did you put it in something.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: we had big barrel £50.50 gallon barrels to put me in.

Karen Purtee: With a wooden or wooden or that or a wooden barrel.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. They're working. I had one for me, one for another after you got the ham salted and then Dad would always take them and put them in a grain rate cover with heat or grain or whatever it was. And that would, they would keep enough the get out of grain and yes. Cover it all up with the grain and then where you water the ham you are going to have a bigger dig it down, get around.

Karen Purtee: Like a needle in the haystack now looking for the ham in the grain.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So that's what I remember that from playing well. And I like that that that time over again. They were too salty. You just right.

Karen Purtee: Did you smoke them too? Did you smoke them?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, I saw smoke too. You had a place that you had built up in anyhow. Place it had on. And I. Have you tried to get it?

Unknown Speaker: Kind of. A bar wasn't the.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Sherry like every variety or would that has a different flavor? So we used that and smoked for many days like you had. And we can go up through and get to burn.

Karen Purtee: On your own cooking.

Unknown Speaker: Up. Yeah, but, yeah, that were good. Everything? Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And I can remember where you were. You had peaches for years and years and years. Well, I didn't have money in the first place to buy Peach. You know, And I don't want to read any peaches. Forget either how that goes. I don't know about that. But I remember from that mother got the first peaches she made some peach jam.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I thought that was wonderful. We said, la la la la la. And Mother made some fresh bread, put some butter on it, and this peach tomorrow. And she made her homemade cheese, you know, And I was good. she made a lot of homemade change. Our mail and, and had that was giving out a little money.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I still remember that when I.

Karen Purtee: That sounds good.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, it was good. It my really good.

Karen Purtee: Did your father have fruit trees?

Karen Purtee: Did your father have fruit trees, an orchard or anything?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Our street. Yeah. Yeah. The orchard had all kinds of apple fruit, cherries and some pear tree then.

Karen Purtee: I don't know. Peach tree?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: No, not all. I don't know. They were, you know, here too cold. We just. Yeah. You know, every time they do anything, we have cream of the house and we got one year mom boxer pears. But it died afterwards. Just to prove whether your hair's too long for you. Keep them up higher and ours in the backyard as well.

Karen Purtee: So what did you do about vegetables when you were young?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: we all were great care. We had carrots and we had them and cabbage as long as it year. In fact, we had all bring them back in the fall and and elastic flour while carrots we had my bear. I don't know how big gone from here over there Popeye is a refrigerator for carrots.

Karen Purtee: Yeah that's right. Wow.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. Bake a lot of care like we had there.

Karen Purtee: And they just stay. You left them outside and they.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah, that was in that area. Big cellar. And they would freeze there.

Unknown Speaker: yeah. So yeah, we.

Karen Purtee: Had plenty of carrots. Cabbage.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. And tater.

Karen Purtee: Potatoes.

Unknown Speaker: My and, and we.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Had our mail in there and I remember we had a screen door from the mail, four or five of them in there and, and we have it right here on that mother's give me cream of wheat. They had no separator or anything like that at that time. So that often she'd make butter and she made butter to sell to.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: she made about 15 £50 a week here.

Unknown Speaker: I mean that was Benton Butter and butter maker.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: How many cows did you have, How many cows. All We have eight cows. I out two in the morning. My sister two and my brother. I don't make six and we give up or in milk to cows and come up here. That's when my head began to get our separator. So then we separate and bring their milk.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And he could have come back and get ready and your school and walk a mile or quarter over the dirt.

Karen Purtee: Those, those were your chores.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Then we'd have our here.

Karen Purtee: Or did you have inside chores too. Did you have to make your bed.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: For you and.

Karen Purtee: Stuff like that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Went for the.

Karen Purtee: Cow? No, no, your bed in the house.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: we didn't had time for that.

Karen Purtee: So mother did that now.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well we didn't, we never got because it wasn't my mother had to do with you. She had to get the food ready, ready to get home. So we just crawl back in bed the way it was.

Karen Purtee: okay. I see.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well, I wasn't too bad. Once a week we changed it and make it on Saturday. And. And sometimes you make it in between, but not right after long time. For the time you have to come out of your separate and you get out and come and get ready for school. You had to be ready. Go to school at 8:00.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: How long? Any time.

Karen Purtee: Till you have that long walk to and I.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Long walk. Remember you used to get on top of the yellow me here, the bell ring and run down. And enforcer Bob Barker answers, We put sacks on the barbed wire so we go through without our our clothes. That. Yeah, I got em. And I don't know where the teacher maybe a lot of the people that lived for our about that if you are inside.

Karen Purtee: Now looked forward to that you looked forward to getting to

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And I see all power go I read my article the other day I thought was real interesting. Benjamin Franklin. He was only three years old in the third grade, and he had to quit school for grade. and I think I have a year and, and he worked around and he didn't like it very left. I think he was born in Boston or went from Boston to Philadelphia or vice versa.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I don't remember how. But anyway, he got books and studied himself and camp and got my Bible as big a letter so I could read it.

Karen Purtee: Man sure.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Here, this is Jerry there in and I have nothing have my professors interesting to talk to.

Karen Purtee: You remember Churchill? I imagine you remember Churchill.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. yeah, I remember here.

Unknown Speaker: And ah, he was a good.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I just read 25 church, years old and invited to speak at his old school and Harold, the headmaster, told the boy that a great statesman was coming. And that was a great event that that would give them a marvelous message that they would never forget that that that this would take them through life successfully. Well, the old man came he was 89 years old at the time, and he stood before the boy, his glasses down on the end of his nose.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: He looked over the audience. It was we're sitting on the same benches here. He himself had car business of long ago. He was silent for a moment and began his immortal one that ought to dare to be given to by days. It must never be. Never. Then silence. Never, he boomed again. Never, never give in. Then he sat down and after his entire speech.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I'll bet they remembered him. Yeah. He didn't say much, but it.

Karen Purtee: Didn't take much to say that, man. yeah. Carved in the in the benches. His initials, Yeah. You put your initials in the school desk.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Boy. Ah, I did. I don't know if I did or not. I wasn't very good either.

Karen Purtee: But then you back to that is that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: As you write a mark, the that Benjamin Franklin and I have met, I think he he was three years old. No, that isn't why he was in the third grade and he quit school. But I guess you didn't get along as well at home or something. I don't know. Anyway, he is born in Philadelphia or Boston at or vice versa.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And then he went there and we got there a where he was he got in with the family, in the English family, and they helped him and he he studied and think we did invalid like all good classes. But I don't know everything at that time he invented.

Karen Purtee: Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, right.

Karen Purtee: Yeah, yeah. Whatever. Electricity.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. You write your personal bifocals for glasses and then he had to give a name for everything, even in the order of the car and everything. He had to give names to it by name. He gave pretty everything you, you made. There was no such thing before. So you had to write.

Karen Purtee: I hope to be an honor.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. He was a wonderful man.

Karen Purtee: Do You remember when electricity came to this area?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I can't remember her electricity back. I remember when the telephone come in lately. we had the we had laughs. I don't remember exactly when electricity around, but I remember having lamps with it. Then we got gasoline lamps. The old fashioned one light gave them or like, you know, I had those a long time. I can't remember exactly when we got electricity, but it it was quite a while.

Karen Purtee: Did they have electricity in the city of Moscow before the farms.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well, they I take them at all. they must have though I guess. I know David had last for a while or Great. I can't remember. I was in the store sometime, but not very much. But they must have had some. Some light, some way. They probably had lamps. I suppose that's it was.

Karen Purtee: I wanted to go back and see if you could remember some of the things about how your mother made cheese. But what you said your mother made cheese.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. yeah. You had a had had a belt. Yeah. You have quite a bit of milk at least for three or four gallons. Anyway. At the time, I'll probably more if you had and I had to be lukewarm and then, and then you put it rather than it and then I would check and say right then, raw milk from the cheese you stuff would go at the bottom on that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And the other. I recall it water and then that. So that would go at the top and you skim that all you could ma lie down and make a what they call Bruno Stone. Sweet. You got it on all that the most some throw it out I think Brook Brewster. Bruno Bruno's.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. That's a Swedish word for whatever the stuff was after it was boiled out. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, that's true. And then, and then she had a he had a pan and a car and the pack that he used in there and every day he had to change that car and, and arrange it all and pour cheese back again till they got hard enough so he'd get her out somewhat dry. It got real hard.

Karen Purtee: now what, what type of cheese would this be. Do you remember her comments?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Are you just lukewarm for your star? Put the run up. Yeah, sure. I don't know exactly what.

Karen Purtee: Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Okay. Yeah, Just bizarre. Yeah.

Karen Purtee: And how did you like the stuff that was boiled?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: The the Brut version of. yeah, I'm pretty good. Pretty good. I didn't catch much for it, but some people like it and some real people that are wonderful. I like the other cheese better, but mother had made this. 1015 cheese. Cheese had a lot lower milk. Had all summer long.

Karen Purtee: So she'd make the cheese in the summer. Yeah. And then you keep it all year.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: we keep track of it dry just like other kids, you know, we're tired on the outside and you come in to, you know, softer. You, you slice it nicely, throw it. And had you had to tell me to dry the meat and then that and then I get carrot slice then slicing and that and that and that was good too, that we could do that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But I guess they could do that. We only did the I guess it did from, I forgot that part. But some other meat sometimes like a deer. I think they give them.

Karen Purtee: Did you eat much deer. Did you eat much deer as a.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: No I don't. We have reindeer that we we had the other me I don't think. Well, I don't know if I had guns what she really or what, The thigh. Yeah. So? Well, I guess I could have gotten so right. So I remember they tried to shoot the pigeon, and so it was going to kill her or her legs.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I had had hot water or. No, The year I was up and down in the hay. But afterwards, to see that it's over by Fenway Park at the great big, all right. Meat barrel. And then they had a slamming out so they could pull it in and out, and then I could pull it all. They could pull the hair off more than they ever done now.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So then afterwards they came in with my.

Karen Purtee: and they were taking the skin off or, you know, just the hair. Just the hair.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. Yeah. We didn't have a lot of a lot of that back as a skin got real clean, you know, like, really good. So. So I didn't. a lot of friction damage to them. I kind of like to start over again. I'll see how I'm going to do now.

Karen Purtee: Well, he told you, honey, that I don't want it at all.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Now, I don't know how we walk. My legs are poor.

Karen Purtee: Sounds like your mother had an awful lot of work. Sounds like your mother had an awful lot of work or.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Did an awful lot. Or just the meals and that and that it. And pick the berries in the summertime. And can. We had a lot of raspberries back at home and they had to be picked and cans. I could glamorize berries. I like to pick raspberries and black caps. So that some other between black caps and Mother's Day had two.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And, they're, they're really made not nice for some of them. Anyway, her back, all that fruit. We have apples really. Apple root for Vermont. We cook them as we need them. But she did make a lot of.

Unknown Speaker: Our apple cider and Mac and that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Raspberry lot around. Well I forestry.

Karen Purtee: Were these wild berries or did your father plant them.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: All. We planted them. All we know was in the wild berries. You could go out in the mountains to pick huckleberries and things, but that I got out of later in years, we never did that. We shall not be grown at all. It wasn't like a bird. I guess it was. But nobody knowing about it.

Karen Purtee: Did you ever have any Indians come through?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: We had my uncle Nels Pearson got a gun from the government, so if any Indians come, he could shoot them up in my store. Our apartment where to put it? Up on Hay Street. It used to be a house. There on the top was building a great big sightseeing place on top around. And we had Laurel around and I could go up there and see the Indians come.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: They, They could get you all.

Karen Purtee: They were afraid of Indians. they were afraid of oak.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I had the Indians cause they have that good eating place now between Moscow and Spokane.

Karen Purtee: over towards Steptoe Butte? Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I grew up. There was a lot of Indian, very.

Karen Purtee: Raw up there. I had a regular or a. Yeah, but your uncle got a gun. He was afraid here.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: we the government. You know, all the government gave the gun. He had. Yeah. Everybody got him. And, and, and I think it's in the family yet a longer mile back. And I keep saying.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. But your, your father didn't necessarily have a gun except for.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: All I know all that much later so I remember dad he got had to walk to town and coming home with some dog. They couldn't see where you were going. So he slept in the haystack overnight hour from Stack or something. And that way it's one more. You can see where you live. so he got up and finished a walk home from having a heart attack and no masters to drive.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: They had the horses, but they couldn't drive too dirty or do too much snow or something. And we have lots of snow. And I had no graders at that time, you know. Yeah. Mountain So and now we are on our way home. We had a foul play around a long way so we wouldn't have to climb that hill because you could never make it.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: You have migrated, you had lost a soul, or so I thought. But later on in the year they fixed that and now they have it. They grow it out here. And I.

Karen Purtee: Think, that would be nice.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I think it's still hot here.

Karen Purtee: Did you use the slab in the dirt? Did you slab in the winter? Scared. No. Sleigh. we.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Had our sleigh here. They had made plane so we had to go up a hill and slide down. But it's funny, we didn't get killed because of the barbed wire fences, though. They, you know, cattle and. And. And had cattle. But the flies snow was so high we could go over it over the fence. we're so high on road.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But when I started to go down that were afraid the horses would step on and go down and get stuck in our fencing. And you were afraid of us first. When I got just a little bit, we were under. I never forget that God was riding a horse. They'd never been trained, you know, And he'd go close to the fence and we climb up and go on his and I didn't know that for a long time.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: We had a lot of rain. Yeah. And, and then you've seen us do it and we stopped and they said, That's dangerous. But Harsh was just so good. He just walked around and we on that back, we had two of them that way and we had a lot of fun before you found out. But he found out and they put a stop to it.

Karen Purtee: You were saying the the snow used to get deep.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: cover the fence post.

Karen Purtee: How did you keep warm then? And you're what? Keep warm Walking.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: School we had about ten cold or our world.

Karen Purtee: In the house.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: In the house?

Karen Purtee: Yeah, but she still had to walk to school.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. we had. We had long wagons all over who were dressed warm. You couldn't go like I do now without a pound flags or anything. All, all you had wool stockings on and then you had leg and like a complete wrap up your button up on the side or a polo mom from way and I'm big over shoes, although well dressed for the war, the weather.

Karen Purtee: Did you wear a wire skirt on top of that or. yeah.

Karen Purtee: No girls always wore.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: We all our photograph while we're getting our new pants. At that time. Remember the first lady in Spokane, LeBron pants were arrested.

Karen Purtee: No kidding.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: We're not getting.

Karen Purtee: The doggone.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Any of it that.

Karen Purtee: I'd have a lot of arresting to do now.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: They would. I kept records on my hard. Don't even think in my.

Karen Purtee: Mother to.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Make their nurses reckon, this is my husband. Everything I did, just like in the hospital.

Karen Purtee: Did you take care of him at home?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. He threw away so many things. We moved down here. I had. Well, you better save money. no one. We get sick now. We have to go to home. But he didn't want to go to home when you got sick. Yeah, and he too. I had. He fixed up a chair for mother and she could use her pants up under the toilet, you know, And that was fine.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I had a nice ironing board. we don't need that anymore. He threw that out. Well, he got so sick and moving that it was everything you had to move in our room. So much stuff after you've been at a place for so many years then. Well he, he really, he and his mother lived there apart now and then and cousin who had lived there for a while and he had a woman come in and after that we were married for they moved out and moved in.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: How small?

Karen Purtee: Okay. For you.

Karen Purtee: Do you remember hearing stories around about when Marshal Hays was killed and Roy?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. I don't really like about the. He was shot. And who shot him? I don't know. But across the tracks, somewhere around in there, it happened.

Karen Purtee: Well, now it was still a big story. By the time you got here. 20 years later,

Hanna Anderson Sandell: wow. I don't know how wrong. What about his name on baby Lock on the way to control? I after you made this Bartholomew Your turn, West, everybody. I used to have a reunion there. A real name. And he lived right around there. I guess I didn't like him very well. Then he sat in a chair and I put a bomb under his chair, and I.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I'm sure of sure was a real. he just got better. He didn't kill him, but it just got better of proud. I a wrote and everything.

Karen Purtee: All That's right I heard that before. That's down were Cornwall.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, that's it.

Karen Purtee: yeah. Yeah. I'll be doggone. I guess I didn't like him. I don't know.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But you didn't kill him. You just. You just put my studio. Seething doesn't spent the last couple of prisoners after giving his body.

Karen Purtee: poor guy. Well, let's see. You. You were a nurse before you came to Troy.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah.

Karen Purtee: Did you work as a nurse intro.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: When you were first? I help Doctor Margaret. I needed here.

Karen Purtee: he had a little hospital here for.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, and for these. Christie, I have a car around here. Her name is no Big Rock.

Karen Purtee: bro. Yeah, Down in her house.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Six miles to the hospital.

Karen Purtee: no, that. Yeah, that was the hospital. And this was Doctor Meyers. Myers.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: He. He moved. He here and moved Seattle, and his wife died soon after he got to Seattle and he had that. He was diabetic. He had had both legs amputated. They sat in a chair the last few years, but he was diabetic and he's down here. But again, that's the most the test is on here. But the testing wasn't any good, so he never found out.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So we kind of provoked this at the medicine he got. He went alone himself. okay. They finally got some other medicine and and from there, you know, maybe you all go get em paid mostly.

Karen Purtee: Or what kind of operations do they do? This is like in the 1920s, I guess, You were. You worked for him in the. About 1920?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, down here at the hospital as long as we were here.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. Okay. Did they have an easier moment?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. He. They had a lot of them, Mrs. Miller. She wasn't a good person. She wasn't a great nurse, but she was good for her. After his doctor, he stopped it and said. Then he switched over to her and I helped him by the operation like some more Sanka.

Karen Purtee: Yeah Here, I'll help myself.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Find.

Karen Purtee: That one with me up pretty good. Did you help deliver babies and things like that?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. At the hospital I Emmanuel, I help. I remember from the baby. I remember doctor them go ahead and do their work. He came and caught him. This time I had all the babies born here about the liver. So I did.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. That was the first time,

Hanna Anderson Sandell: No, I don't want to hear first timers ever again.

Karen Purtee: Did you ever do for people around here in their homes or did they go to the hospital, buy them.

Unknown Speaker: A home or home? Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I helped with Mrs. Prayer and watched her how I took care of it in the school program and had to box in her program. All her job as a mother, a wife was my running back and.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And I took care hours with her. But it was a hard to live. We had to use horses. I remember her saying about, Can you do that? Why? There's nothing else to do now. You just can't deliver. So your car, everything came out all right.

Karen Purtee: Now, Did your mother have have doctors when she had her babies?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, I had one. She had one named now when I was born. Afterwards, she was Dr. Garrett. I'll ask you to backtrack. We later came, and here he is. But now he's dead to his son. He's got three in Spokane at the medical building. so that's Melvin. That's right. But he had two children back. Or I forget.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I remember when I rode, I. My girl's name was brought up. I'll be watching you very proud.

Unknown Speaker: I know all I know.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I came into the hospital and that woman told me. She said, Do you know that you were with my mother when I was born and made me a girl? that. I think there are so many. I couldn't remember. You know, everybody I was with said, Yeah, sure. With my mother. I was born, I was out here in the country.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I can't remember her name now. And so I worked many hours. I kept track of everybody I was with. Yeah. I had been involved in that thing. Yeah I really have read flowers all week because I remember it as I have at the hospital in my Moscow. Yeah, I guess it was long ago. I always wore out.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Anyway, by 11:00 I had delivered three baby. Three mothers came in.

Karen Purtee: Our doctor were there to help both.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So I called or I came and I can tell I did. So I looked around. She was anybody around. I just a restaurant in the hall and kind of roar right in the room. You all in time writing anyhow, From our on the living room table. Otherwise I like to give them a bath before they bring.

Karen Purtee: Em.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Back. But no time for that for you. Call the doctor. And he was color mad, she says. I had a hunch I had to come in. I said, Don't care at all or No, I just have a hunch. But I better go. And she had to be out there. I know I delivered one baby. I remember she had talked to three years of training.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Two years, I guess we went and and I got going on New Year's ceremony o'clock in the morning and their our had there and they yelled at me, you better I'm going to see what's doing here for what you were. I had over to you.

Karen Purtee: In our.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Door while.

Karen Purtee: You were here.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I got ready to have a baby by Yes, but you can take you. You can go now. You have to deliver it right here. It was too late for We delivered the baby name. They brought the stretcher in so I could take care of the girls because I asked the girls to bring a stretcher and somebody to wrap a blanket, direct the baby in there.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So they took that up there.

Karen Purtee: You mean she was still outside? Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Time to even put a roster stretcher.

Karen Purtee: my goodness. Yeah, You're.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Just funny, Bear.

Karen Purtee: yeah. Well, I know how fast it can happen, you know, So.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So that overall role for them. It was funny to watch them on my land whenever that you didn't you know because she'd had two years of training she hear that no one while she said they gave me so much medicine that I didn't know where I was. she didn't realize that she was going out there and I didn't know her or through her looked up her face.

Karen Purtee: You know, you had other things to worry about.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And then all my that you went out all. Yeah. She said, Why? I said, well we have to get the stretcher. So I get all the girl get the stretcher, somebody to carry a blanket. So you take the baby and, and that was all. And she brought her upstairs to her, had to be out for a while to get you Felt better throw down her bed.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: They don't want to stay in the hospital.

Karen Purtee: One day now they let me out. I think my baby was, 32 hours old when I went home, Mama, 32 hours.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: now my I just. Overnight, Marshall. Just overnight? Yeah. I think that's a shame. Our mother ready to go home that quick? I know. Dr. Laura told me it takes my moms to get that stomach that be. And it doesn't go back in place in that big hurry. He's in no sense in any way he was mad about it.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I mean, he didn't talk to. He got it. I had quite a write up in the paper. Fine.

Karen Purtee: Well, when your mother had her babies, how long did she have to stay in bed? I go. Well.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: She had the doctor come out, honey. And then Dr. Ashbrook here and came on out. I read all all these names of all the neighbors. So I was like.

Karen Purtee: Yeah, they didn't want you to know, did they?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Not long that well, I can understand. If I had so many children, I didn't have enough to provide for them. Yeah, I can understand that. Looking at look at him and Well, what is in Africa? They have children. Eight, ten, 12. The children. And I think our farm and I haven't got enough to feed them and a half hour after they get here.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. Till they die.

Karen Purtee: But back in the old days they didn't, they didn't know, did they know.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And I guess it not.

Karen Purtee: To do anything.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But they could have had twin beds, they could behave themselves.

Karen Purtee: Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well maybe said that was too close.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. Even twin beds were big.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well yeah. But that it I think is tough on the shoulders. I run once you're over afterwards I think in Africa where they have ten. Well and I came to Reno.

Karen Purtee: And as now nowadays they can.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah.

Karen Purtee: Like they have.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: To do in Africa.

Karen Purtee: Well I don't think so.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But no they have. Well that.

Karen Purtee: Takes education.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah it does. They haven't got that. What. They can't read or write like them. I can't tell what to be the candy.

Karen Purtee: No. I think you feel pretty good about that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: This is sort of our capital Mercury.

Karen Purtee: Okay, You lift my arm. Did you have treats like this when you were a girl? Candy and cookies and stuff or.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Or they had the whole candy acquired that used to come home in a sack with her hand. Candy went into everything. I don't like this smell. It wasn't wrapped up, right? Yeah. You're not going to me. Why is all over funny people there now?

Karen Purtee: Of course, they had a lot of diseases and things now.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah? Yeah. I never forget one butcher shop down here. Alfred used to talk about money. You thought about that many? Fly is a very butchering, cutting up meat swarmed around.

Karen Purtee: yes, It's good.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. I like being street. I get that dog and.

Karen Purtee: Did your mother make any kind of candy or.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: No, I hear you roar all the time. Then you bring home the corn candy. I don't know. Whoever made them is like growing up. I mean, you growing older with sugar.

Karen Purtee: Awfully expensive or something, or.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: You know, how.

Karen Purtee: You just didn't do it in your family?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: sugar were expensive to. Yeah. All days are gone.

Karen Purtee: But in some ways it's good. And in some ways you miss it. Yeah, they do the good food.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I can remember Moscow got mugged in there now for dried up. look at you.

Karen Purtee: Couldn't win either way, After you've done your chores and gone to school and walk back home again, did you have time to play your.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: you know how to call again? And then you get out and either a dog or a dog who got home for, I don't know, right in the middle of a winter, half real bad. They didn't have any school and more in the spring. come. It was too hard, too much stone, too hard to get there. But we only had about three or four months schooling.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. My good at that time. we didn't know very much. Now, the teachers, we had to have two years of high school.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But the thing we got that, ah, we wouldn't had anything. Yeah.

Karen Purtee: Well, you remember what your.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Subjects were all reading, writing and spelling. we had geography. Maybe a little history.

Karen Purtee: And there was only one teacher for the whole school.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, and managing class was only about 10 minutes. The bell rang and you get up and and an Arabian and you go and the next class and go up. But you didn't have time. Get all those six, seven, eight graders and, and I had only about 10 minutes to advise there. And then you had you go on come back in that time to.

Karen Purtee: you mean from your seats.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah.

Karen Purtee: I guess you had to do most of your your learning and your studying on your own. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. Well, it seems like it helped us to hear the others, too. You know.

Karen Purtee: You were all in the same room.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: All and all. Yeah, all in the same room and first grade. And you listened to the second grade? You got quite a bit. Are you surprised how much you get of listening to just the lesson? And I'm sure grade bath, you got to pay for your scholarship to get the. I don't know why you let them do it and you didn't know much about it and I didn't know anything about.

Karen Purtee: but eighth grade, you mean. Yeah. And then. Did you go on after eighth grade.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Too? Well, I got married. Married after a while. Not too long after we and my husband died after ten months. And then I went back nurses training in Portland, and I was there for years. And then I. They don't want to repeat charge you to anchor your back. And I did that for a year. I was kind of a hog.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I was so much lifting patient on the lamb and that I can hardly take it. And then they had to have treatment and it had we go out to another place and then why I had to get help for that each time.

Karen Purtee: And yeah, you're are kind of small to be with the people around. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And then give them a, bring them back again. As your mother. My father ever had a hard so I, I to that from him back here at work I think brethren.

Karen Purtee: It must have been brand new then It was brand new then.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well they had a had an old building. Just a new building all together now.

Karen Purtee: Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But they have no building. And then they had some patients over there after they're built the first half and I had some in the old building. I remember I had an old man there and try and be poor and then you got a call, you had to hurry down your you all. I'm not sure or whatever so we had to hurry down and help deliver her.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And I remember he came back to where I was a boy or a girl.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. He, the mattress that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: He knew about really over for about it went is finally going to get isn't dead already a moral that things went so good for us the.

Karen Purtee: it was too two separate buildings then.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah the old building and they had an incline outside. Well they had built over here again. Right on.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But hadn't invited to the old building and this new building over over here we had all the and new patients over there. As many as we could handle over here.

Karen Purtee: I see. So you had to spend your time rushing back and forth between the two buildings?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, that's right. I took one baby was a premature. We had two feet of working at two down and a third floor eyebrow wall. But I was better that those doctor got me to do it. So I did it. And that is that. Well, the government spends so much money foolishly that you can you as well spend it all right with of this.

Karen Purtee: so the government was paying for the baby? Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: That's how I have. man. my baby. I see. I see one baby I took care of afterwards. Doctor Wilson's patient for his incubator, and we couldn't take it out. We had to do everything to window out that and not had a year after. It was a nice looking child. I was in having a treatment on my leg, and he brought the child over.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well so I could see it. I said, Is that the child? I was just a small child. And your nurse?

Karen Purtee: My goodness, that's rewarding, isn't it?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, well, the things had become like this and she lived out by getting to see.

Karen Purtee: They can do wonderful things. Now, I guess you saw a lot of changes in medicine over.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So much change in the last 12 years. You cannot you can't believe how much change. Well, in the ten years even. In medicine, everything they try everything and some are all good. And some are allergic to this and that and I. I'm all for medicine. I think that. I guess I finally get it.

Karen Purtee: Yeah, they keep trying. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Now Do they have penicillin when you started nursing. So they didn't even have that then,

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Now. But they did hit the afterwards. I gather that they and they had what mercy killing they had nurse there. She said well I can't give them a cell phone because I'm allergic to it, I can't even touch it. She said, So you have to give all the penicillin. This has to be given. I said, All right, all right.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well, so I you about before. she said that she worked at night and all that. Just awful vicious. So they gave her dose and she had formula heart really that respected and after that she said they never said that anymore.

Karen Purtee: She said yeah there's a lot of people that are supposed to be allergic to it. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well I had one man that I really had penicillin for years before and I gave her penicillin and he was already it now. But he wasn't the first four, four years ago he was all right. But, after four years, he was to it. No, not all over. And I say, All right, in your mind, lamb it or.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, I had it for you. You going out All right? for sure. All that. You can't always tell the year you're okay.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. Your body changes all the time.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I think I hear a lot of Shangri la la la. Just try and see if it works. Well, of course, that's the way you learn. But I tried on the dogs or something like that first, I think.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. And there's people that scream about that too.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah.

Karen Purtee: You remember when first cars came in?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. The first car come in after Grandma in Moscow, and then the second one was CB Green.

Karen Purtee: And he'd be out here in Troy.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: He had a, had a gallery.

Karen Purtee: The laundry Moscow. okay. Mud brain. Okay.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And and took a while before anybody else can. When you are a harsh. You were afraid of death. You know, I'll let you go. I will pass the time. They had a car. They were scared to death, you know. And I had never seen car Who you had to put up with that for a while or ha.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: He scared to death or something coming towards them at all.

Karen Purtee: Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: For coming back. What I had little thing they couldn't see you. I had that.

Karen Purtee: Help with blinders. Yeah but were there a lot of accidents when the first cars came with. With the horses, I mean.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Or some runaway? We had an accident. My sister. I, We who? I. I'll take my sister to.

Karen Purtee: Go do.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Just, I guess after and school I go anyway we our way over to the right. And then I fell over here and then I was one in the middle I coming down. So I was here, but just fell, came round and drove right into us like that.

Karen Purtee: You were in a car enough know.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And just a one horse car, you might say. Ralph, I got my sister's car wrong, but nothing too bad. But yeah, it's bad enough to start me again, so. And that horse a half, he got scared. And then you find that next morning,

Karen Purtee: He got loose and kept going,

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. Your throw.

Karen Purtee: Now was one of those was a car.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Where the car took a carpet.

Karen Purtee: The car hit. Hit the car? Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I don't see how you could do it, but you had to turn around. Hit. Just because I got out a little bit, I run in the middle. And another one? This guy right around here, I said. He said he had had lights or back your lights for us. And you see us coming. They're going.

Karen Purtee: They're the first problems with speed,

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah.

Karen Purtee: We Did you learn how to drive?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. I drove all the time after the hospital when I worked up here, I drove except a winter, and I didn't. I used to drive.

Karen Purtee: Do you remember the first car you drove?

Hanna Anderson Sandell: First car Drove? Yeah. That was an automobile. We'd gone round to move them. And the. And got this no break out in Moscow almost for bailing them out or problem all always saying I mean hardly hardly he were selling cars at that time. and a lot of he was a salesman at that time so we got it from him that Alfred had it right.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Arrow Ford But that was before we were married again for No Michigan. Those little Ford I remember my cousin wouldn't go for a started where you didn't know how to stop it. no. He drove around round and my aunt was so mad at him that I forget she the old Ford High was down. Up high, I guess, and low were real low or vice versa.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And then I said, or he stopped in the center. Well, stop.

Karen Purtee: one pedal. Did all this. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: So if I. Maybe I have one now where pi and that laptop was low and said it would stop it, she would just put halfway and stop it and he didn't know we drove and drove around all with gasoline all gone. So and then I stopped. my act was unprovoked. I should have learned how to fire. But before he started, he didn't.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: He thought he knew all this.

Karen Purtee: This was a grown man. yeah. I wasn't a kid. Just.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: No, no. He was a grown man. no age in his twenties, anyway. I'm a rear admiral, so prevent that. And you think that he would stop living? A lot would stop it. But he didn't know. How in question to hired. Ah. Got one more hot, you see. And he didn't go in the center though I thought they were different afterwards.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: They were different two parts. First cars were quite average, quite common the first car. Funny old things that didn't have work clothes in that you had curtains you could pin down. You know, I don't know why they'd be flop, you know, when we're rolling. And that's the only thing you had after where they got them. So they came more like a coupe, all of them.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But otherwise you just had to pull down the curtains, you might say, and. And then flip flop and boy.

Karen Purtee: Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. Just funny. Yes, funny now. But it was so funny at the time.

Karen Purtee: You know, I imagine you got a little home, Yeah, a little cold in the car.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. Well, you never had the car out for three months. That you stored it up for three months was needed. You could never drive it too much or too much mud for whatever time. They. They just put the car jacked up and. But who knows what was down on the floor and. And just last mile every month.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Every year. Every year. And then they walked downtown and they had all the sidewalk shops so they could get down a little. I'll follow you all over again. you. You couldn't see across the street. Just might smell. There's a pile by here.

Karen Purtee: Yeah, try and try.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: My goodness. No, you couldn't see across the street. We had pictures of the summer. boy. Yeah. So they had to make their places. She would cross over to the other side. That'd be that. Out. So make it for you. Crawl here and there a little bit.

Karen Purtee: Like it, but.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: We don't want to do it at all. But it's my first day at home, and I didn't have a phone either. I remember my dad died when Spokane. We were operated on. We had cancer and and I'd rather live let my mom play than and we had to get him on our side to go out. And Calvin was rough on him.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. And now your friend and we had company. We'd always had enough time come in, get him in Moscow, my uncle, and. And take him out and then bring him back. That was four trips for the one that took him.

Karen Purtee: they'd come to visit and they.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Were asked out for dinner. You're saying, I'm sorry Dad, go and drive in. Take your mom. Drive back. I don't know. Back home, our foreign trips for him. For him.

Karen Purtee: They didn't have the kind of wagon that could get him out.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Not all of it and everything. Everybody walked in my mouth so far that you. I didn't have a car or. Yeah, there was one. And I walked so far from home. yeah. Well, they wouldn't even walk a to mile to two blocks to car, to school or kids. Yeah. I do like to walk now.

Karen Purtee: Status symbol show. They got a car, I guess. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Well I know a I won by a live camera. Well I love those well not above their I think was really was their first ever had and what I can't remember and they had to walk out then they took the car to walk that little distance. Yeah.

Karen Purtee: It's only a couple of blocks and. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And there was no space for car of them or who either.

Karen Purtee: There were probably.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: For space and every, every kid would bring a dog in. we had no of.

Karen Purtee: That school you mean. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: They bring a dog from school and I know Mrs. Peterson about, you know, Robert Johnson is now, well the house above that Peterson's that I kind of 67 dogs in her front yard morning the mail now you're seeing everybody every all female real crazy.

Karen Purtee: That was before they have leash laws and things and then.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: After that, they would let them down, I don't think. Well, I think you rent a car all over.

Karen Purtee: You must remember prohibition. Pretty good prohibition time.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I am glad that. Well, I. Yeah, I remember that too. Dry air bad in Moscow rather had a rolls job and there was job and everybody go in their factory and had beer and I would get drunk. They treat you like any other and most of them would come home half drunk. And I'm sure that regular now and then.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Then after work you into a foul mouthed car. You can go someplace around here. There? Yeah. Who's your brother of Gustavus and Hail Now, here. I had one daughter. I guess Donald didn't have any children like alcohol. So how long till I got married? You okay? Well, who she married named Clifford Carlson. You. You were smart. in there years.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I'm trying to hear the little chart. And she was tall or some funny girl over, but she did not, too. And I know. I don't think she is. I don't think I haven't heard in.

Unknown Speaker: He is. But anyway, yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I'll buy the appropriation without it. Say a lot of people from.

Karen Purtee: Coming home drunk. yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I, I everybody you go and have a drink. Went three New Year's Eve.

Karen Purtee: And they got to during during prohibition.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Now after prohibition before that for before probation went out. After that they had no place to go.

Karen Purtee: So that's only when they didn't have anything to drink, you know, that was better.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. Well they can that or they can even get thousand Bergdahl by it, you know.

Karen Purtee: Yeah, that's.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah, I know. It wasn't like it. One of them, everybody just went out. One friend yelled and carried on me for sure. I was sure glad that went out.

Karen Purtee: That, you know, they were supposed to be a lot of saloons in Troy.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah.

Karen Purtee: For Prohibition. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: I think you're here for picture one. We had quite a few stonework. It was pretty dark.

Unknown Speaker: And the people around.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: forget the name.

Unknown Speaker: Kristin and Ashley. Yeah. I don't.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Remember the other two. There are two more store the grocery stores. A lot of grocery stores per small place. All for.

Karen Purtee: Well, you lived in Moscow before you were married.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah.

Karen Purtee: And then you lived here? Yeah. Was there a lot of difference? The big town, Little town or.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Marshall was very big at that time. You know, in your area, some different, smaller. This was smaller. But yeah, we had the same church here from church and he was in Moscow. Moscow Lutheran Church was built when I was in Moscow and they, they sold the church to the Norwegians and when we were down on third but it's gone up to and then and they built the church they have there now.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: But I think the community here has it now. I think I remember I Well, that's good. I think they made some changes. I guess that's it. That's the building. Anyway.

Karen Purtee: The one that's across from that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: That's on the second then.

Karen Purtee: Yeah. Yeah.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: That was, I had you know. Yeah. And my old building and all the mansions and a museum there and. Mother used to work about two houses before so she, she knew about that. You didn't have that the.

Karen Purtee: yeah, yeah, yeah she did. Did a housekeeper know Hewitt.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Yeah. She's a happy he helped. Or maybe that showed up. she did the cooking.

Unknown Speaker: For and like that.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Because she was right in there with all.

Karen Purtee: So she knew the.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: yeah. yeah. Who is McDonald's now. And. Yeah. And I mentioned more. I just died just.

Karen Purtee: Recently a hundred.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: And five years old, more of a killed by a bomb I guess one time by the gate, somebody and that. yeah I know. And I think some something like that.

Karen Purtee: And the one that had did.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: He was put up to it. He was quick to it he had to it really have other people for working to and that were off when you went through Nassau County. but just my man has lived at this farm, right, for years and years and still lives, I think. Have you or trustee? He had a chicken farm and he took care of that.

Unknown Speaker: well, you.

Hanna Anderson Sandell: Couldn't sell that product. You?

Karen Purtee: Well, I think that we just about ran out of steam for now. Okay.