Latah County Oral History Collection

Laura Schrager: And Gleason was born in 1906 and spangled. Her mother's parents, the Frick's, were one of the founders of that town and ran the hotel on this tape and describes the Spangler Hotel, the move to Hartford and life at home, different events from her childhood and the workday of her parents, or recall. There we go. There. Make sure to sit down.

Anna Utt: Under.

Unknown Speaker: Your want a cocktail? Okay.

Laura Schrager: That's that Orange Cup's mine.

Laura Schrager: It doesn't matter.

Laura Schrager: I'm going to end up asking some, you know, some questions that you know about you folks and stuff that you've actually already told me about.

Anna Utt: But I want you to know whether or not.

Laura Schrager: I think I'll tape. And I want to ask you about your grandparents again. They talked about, you know, the ones who lived down your mom, her world.

Anna Utt: My mother's people, your friends and the tango. They're real old timers. And they just about the town. My grandpa and his and George and I think they were in the second layer. Later they built a big hotel. And then that three years, I think most of their kids were born there. But I know.

Unknown Speaker: A lot of.

Anna Utt: Anyway, they had to go to all along, call her stuff, you know, back, you know, flowers and stuff. And I you know.

Laura Schrager: I one wasn't the thing to say, but.

Anna Utt: I happened know. Paper on the other.

Laura Schrager: 1886. But that being when they moved there because that's when they first child in Spain.

Anna Utt: First you know Yes. And then you know from between one birth and the other and so I can't see it.

Laura Schrager: That's from.

Anna Utt: That I, I haven't got I can't come. I can't remember.

Laura Schrager: What was the story about the the children of theirs that died and when they were.

Anna Utt: Living at Walter Reed died on that. You know, we can't find. And then, you know, they couldn't stay here anymore using their children that way. So they gave their land to someone that would bring the children. And I'd come down and come to Spain.

Laura Schrager: Was there any town there at all when they moved there?

Anna Utt: You have always a man. And I compare the name of Spain? No. I can't count.

Unknown Speaker: Yeah. No, I.

Laura Schrager: I have. You gave me some stuff last time.

Anna Utt: With regard to that.

Laura Schrager: Really. Who stayed in that hotel that they rented? What kind of hotel was that?

Anna Utt: I was going to go and meet them. I don't mind stories. It was like Grandpa and Grandma. As long as they had enough girl and grandpa. Man, I don't think she had to have quite a father after he was gone. Because, you know, I when my oldest brother was a baby. And so that we can do, in my.

Unknown Speaker: Opinion, thinking more, making.

Anna Utt: Grandma's children. And I was 12 years old and of course, mom working there all the time. She admits that, right. Well, I have to cut my folks down.

Unknown Speaker: And kill people and that's the way it.

Anna Utt: Can happen here. I have one or two platters that they used to go kill, you know, with platters.

Unknown Speaker: Big, heavy, thick things and.

Anna Utt: Carrying them around.

Laura Schrager: Did they, you know, one room, did they feed.

Anna Utt: Everyone at once? Yeah, in one big guy.

Laura Schrager: And all the girls helped out very well.

Anna Utt: And you know, as one very often, another one would probably help out. I know. I don't think you have to account when a young girl was growing up, they didn't have to. They're all gone. Except Mom. Yeah, it was quite a big family.

Laura Schrager: They were 12 or 13.

Anna Utt: I had to all. I don't know. It was like it was pan and I can't find.

Unknown Speaker: That now that I heard.

Laura Schrager: You once. You did your father, James Franco, I mean.

Anna Utt: Yeah, his parents lived in Spokane, and I think because he knew that my grandma was living in Spokane and then my grandma died in 19 four, and he lived up there all that. All that time. But my dad is at that time working on farms. I think he's here and there. And he went to Spain going.

Unknown Speaker: I, you know, I think.

Anna Utt: I'd have to think that Country Grammar was on that because that makes sense. Course I would not if I did, but it seems like it was so delicious. And if I know, you know, one time the taste of it wasn't a big apple, but it was too. If I could used to. I don't know what it was a summer apple.

Anna Utt: And they didn't they didn't pick up the slack. You come, you know.

Unknown Speaker: And and it was like all from the.

Anna Utt: Back of a hotel or with their home it's gone to but where the highway is going through Bangor Spokane, that highway is right on top of it. Hard work would have been out of town.

Unknown Speaker: Still, you know.

Anna Utt: I was more of a cook there and, you know, and the road was down a.

Unknown Speaker: Little bit and they.

Anna Utt: Were now ramshackle about big change. You know, they were, you know, look, know, I remember at one time used to come over and sail. Come yourself, let's take a cab. And, you know, one day she was out there and he was taking a long hands off the tree, you know, until he had gone home anymore, I guess. And she loved him.

Anna Utt: But, you know, even though she was grown, she's underage drinking. That man.

Unknown Speaker: Yeah, We are living in a way.

Laura Schrager: That's a delicacy. Now, Chocolate company was.

Anna Utt: My.

Laura Schrager: Second. Personally, I've never tried it.

Anna Utt: No, I haven't even, you know, I've been there, but I know a lot of people get back a lot of people, you know, complaining.

Laura Schrager: They might have saved his life one time, have you did your parents do the same thing?

Anna Utt: Wow. Like, and they stayed here until, like, now. And we know that that but they had they had a farm, but then they had a farm sale. And I can't of feel they had and they sold out most of the kids.

Unknown Speaker: They had to go over to, you know.

Anna Utt: Did they.

Laura Schrager: Did they run the hotel where they stayed and started.

Anna Utt: Going, Really? No, no. That carried me over here. Yeah. You know, one push buggy, you know, and we worked in a warehouse all round the house and everything was up here. And we're not down.

Unknown Speaker: A little ways.

Anna Utt: And we worked there a while. And then they got on the farm and made them up and coming home and come out here so that, that old friend. I don't know, you know, I guess that's how we called it now. We got here in November. We lived in the chicken house five farm place, low court. No, you pass a mile down and shit, you know, the next winter my dad had the log cabin back.

Laura Schrager: To the building himself.

Anna Utt: Well, he he got most of work, you know, he had to have, he had some money help, I think with motor racing in Iraq.

Unknown Speaker: And that was and I know I.

Anna Utt: Know how it was.

Laura Schrager: I don't know what was it like the old house?

Anna Utt: I think I have a picture. I think I kind of look like this. I kept one that looked like I mean, grandma, the one that came back, that one to have a perfect family. There's one inside of.

Unknown Speaker: A we and.

Anna Utt: Another side later, I think they go sour on out here. It's waterproof and stuff.

Laura Schrager: Didn't have to be upstairs to do that too. Yeah. So were you. It was like to have them all.

Anna Utt: It was nice that in a lot of trouble and chaos and. All right, well, how do you know? You know what? You were gonna. You might not. You know.

Laura Schrager: They can't write clean.

Anna Utt: Yeah they could write the just right and pictures were wrong.

Unknown Speaker: I mean know and and he.

Anna Utt: Was going golf cart out front in the back room and you know Kramer be smoking in the back of the car.

Laura Schrager: How big a house was that that they built. How big was it on the inside?

Anna Utt: It had three room had it incredibly big living room and not so big bedroom, that bedroom. And that's how long. But not what you mean wider than the man's much wider, you know, wide enough to get around it. And they had a three bedroom house there and the rest of the kids were upstairs. And then the kitchen was about like that, too, but a little bit bigger.

Anna Utt: You know, we haven't had have a big cable. And then we had a bench outside the cable ring. And I always call that Kramer because I was a kid. Start blowing my, you know, that stuff on this. And the then through right there and that was beautiful. I mean, I don't care too much about how how and now we never see like this summer I saw.

Unknown Speaker: The boys and that was then one of.

Anna Utt: My we had the money to stay in like, until he retired.

Unknown Speaker: You, you know, right.

Anna Utt: My sister here. And we don't see each other very often. How come home with his family don't get together? I would like him.

Laura Schrager: You're all pretty close. Yeah.

Anna Utt: I mean, we always have. And moving you know something? Once a year sometimes was Thanksgiving. That really was great, You know, for some of them to come sometimes or sometimes we'd go up.

Unknown Speaker: Because it can happen. You know.

Anna Utt: There's so much fun.

Laura Schrager: Do you remember what it was like living in that chicken coop, pursuing that pretty hard because it was kind of into it's.

Unknown Speaker: And you I don't have.

Anna Utt: I don't remember too much. I remember since we didn't have too much furniture yet, you know, and everything, we weren't too crowded but they had a whole box. It was that and no longer I measure too wide and all that wall and they hung their coats and little kids, you know, and do back over there and so on.

Anna Utt: You know, I, I remember some of the school kids came up to school here. We were here. And the kids some of the girls come up and ask me how recess time and start school again. And so I climbed up on that box to get my coat cause I was showing how important everything else. And then I just felt very guilty.

Anna Utt: Given that this place is something to do, you always remember.

Laura Schrager: We didn't, you.

Anna Utt: Know, go to the neighborhood. It was okay. All right. My kids do now. They can we can play a little bit and they kind of go, We always have a company like I don't do Hi everyday. I like which one of my friends have something.

Unknown Speaker: That green every year.

Anna Utt: We are two kids at home.

Laura Schrager: We usually do by dinnertime. Or would you eat dinner at.

Anna Utt: A friend's house at noon? Really? Good thing we really have to be home at lunch with like, you know.

Unknown Speaker: Like you want to be in my spare many years.

Anna Utt: For you.

Unknown Speaker: And we got old enough to go out here, but Thursday was a good time.

Anna Utt: Groovy.

Laura Schrager: Now, I. What? Did your family do anything for? What would you do when you were all together? Well, evenings just.

Anna Utt: Impose this good life here. Of course. We were out. I knew I would come back. You know, I was the only girl, you know? So my work may not happen, you know? I mean, you know, the baseball and you are, you know, home runs and crap. You know, things like that.

Laura Schrager: Who's your father playing them to me.

Anna Utt: he always was like volunteers and baseball.

Unknown Speaker: You know? And then in the wintertime.

Anna Utt: I know who crocheted or Reed was nice, like, you know, before electricity, you can make little lamps we have here in Miami and you can read, you know.

Unknown Speaker: Everything and you can never see, especially, I guess, inside of a farm.

Anna Utt: On a lot of the stories.

Unknown Speaker: And stuff. And I how often do they come?

Anna Utt: I think to find month. I think that maybe it was more like a year and I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know.

Laura Schrager: What kind of stories with their.

Anna Utt: Old line. I remember one of that that we got. We thought we could read that. So it was one of the great, great stories.

Unknown Speaker: About man or I think of.

Anna Utt: Any story that you out of yourself, you chronicle. I think it was twice.

Laura Schrager: What you read in the paper and it was.

Anna Utt: Good news, you know, I mean.

Unknown Speaker: That way we.

Laura Schrager: Read the stories over and over again.

Anna Utt: If you while anyone you know, if we could complete it, Iraq would you like to read 30 people? In my impression of hard times, we only had gave, you know, one thing.

Unknown Speaker: Before. You have to be entertained away from, I guess, you know.

Anna Utt: I have great grandkids and they grew up. Your friend.

Unknown Speaker: What do you mean by that? They grew.

Laura Schrager: Up. They grew up.

Anna Utt: And then well, it seemed like, you know, about 20. He's married now. There's Clark. And the second one goes first part. You know, it college down there. And and then the third one, our senior heart rate. He just think we have a nurturing farm. You grow up that fast. We go on to sophomore year where, you know, they're so busy, schoolwork and stuff.

Laura Schrager: Do you think that when you're growing up you have more time to plan and move around the.

Anna Utt: Kids, do you think? Well, you know, you wouldn't think so different. You know, like in olden days, we could, you know, have recesses and recesses and you get out and play and then the game would continue from where it left off. You know, the next we said we'd have an hour. Noon was not always like every winter you have an hour new.

Anna Utt: But you know, it seemed like it was always kind of hard. And now they don't have that. They have this for lots of things. You know, it it got being by.

Unknown Speaker: And and and I guess they're they seem to.

Anna Utt: Be harder. We were by far.

Laura Schrager: Did you were you pretty close to the the there's the sisters and brothers in your family and we're about your age. We are. We did have, you know, good friends outside and.

Anna Utt: In the way of, you know, I had I had some friends, all right? And we we can't do it only at school cause I don't have that much. We had little very. I had some very good friends. I had one I live in in California. She can get out now and start and have another. She had been having kind of I saw her sister Bill one year for the first time.

Unknown Speaker: And like 40 years.

Anna Utt: Making her know and maybe we can expect so much when you get older, you try to be calm, you know? I know, I know I can't run complete home, beat em up because I have a 40 year old granddaughter over.

Unknown Speaker: Here and she.

Anna Utt: She to get started again, I guess, you know, making a little bit of wood and they hold it up so it that make world war and hold it out in the summer.

Laura Schrager: And then they had a small so.

Anna Utt: You know they just.

Laura Schrager: Cordon a wood wherever they.

Anna Utt: Could pick it out, you know, maybe on the coast, you know, and then they got start construction happened on the capital until I had a free truck and car and everything for everybody.

Unknown Speaker: And they made the.

Anna Utt: Boys, you know, That was 20.

Laura Schrager: Eight. Yeah. One Walmart breakfast be like, you know.

Anna Utt: They went into town. Finally dad got up for a fire without one.

Laura Schrager: And when when you get up now early.

Anna Utt: To work and I suppose it was around 530 maybe earlier and he made the coffee it could the oatmeal and he he always had a feel for me almost. He was always and I to this day, I mean something from my mom about.

Unknown Speaker: The rest of the year.

Laura Schrager: And then all the rest of the week.

Anna Utt: And then, you know, got to get up, I guess, you know, and it wouldn't take long to either open your Ferrari can make your arm a ghost or whatever it was we had, you know, and get ready for school, be gone.

Laura Schrager: Did you have any chores around the house you had to do before you left in the morning? You know.

Anna Utt: I don't think so. Help me out here. You get ready to go. And I can't remember where the wash dishes or anything like that. I suppose my God knows all after.

Laura Schrager: Would you come home for lunch.

Anna Utt: Now without Javier? That's quite a job in the trunk. We always a bake bread every.

Unknown Speaker: Day and everything.

Anna Utt: So we always had fresh bread.

Laura Schrager: You know. How many of those would you just. How many loaves would she be?

Anna Utt: And I think it was five, I think. And a big pack. You were. She had three those and a big pan. And to go with a smaller pan, that's the owner of an old 20 bed company. And if she ran out, she would make biscuits for supper and saved the bread for lunch. And the next day she got caught up.

Anna Utt: Yeah, but most of it every day you.

Laura Schrager: did you have much white flour that you used to control or did you have much white flour or was it awful? We did.

Anna Utt: She went out and no, we had lots of white flour. You know, you could take your clothes that had grown up, you know, right back home in the winter. You think five gallon, honey, you know.

Laura Schrager: We'd get a five gallon.

Anna Utt: And mom, we can weigh. I have you can help. You can.

Unknown Speaker: Pick and you can have anything and.

Anna Utt: Have their own meat. You know, we got good you know.

Laura Schrager: Did you have a cow for milk and chicken?

Anna Utt: Your college, You know what I mean? How Well, they were milk improving when they got older, but they just had three or four butter and all cotton. Sure. But yeah, they they put you pigs.

Unknown Speaker: In the farm sometimes.

Anna Utt: But not for long. I don't see it as a problem. You know, they had more beef and then when I got older, kind of see here for Dr. Butcher, we eat with you, you grab the knife and do you think you're going to get the help? And I suffered with that. that man walked the floor and everything else already decided to take it off.

Laura Schrager: Did you have to preserve the paint? Would you smoke?

Anna Utt: Yeah, and we had a black smoke out, you know, So where I usually when he comes job is like.

Laura Schrager: How long smoke before it was here, it's like, wow. I mean, do you have any idea. I don't.

Anna Utt: Know. I just it see like for European that I suppose now it would be like everything else when you're older should be very trigger happy and bigger and thicker. The snow is deeper and when you know my were.

Laura Schrager: Had much of a temper.

Anna Utt: Yeah.

Anna Utt: This is my son. What's your name?

Laura Schrager: More Mark Schrader.

Anna Utt: Yeah. You. How. How are you? Real good, thank you. Yeah, we're fine. You know, reporters are crossed.

Laura Schrager: Over to you. Yeah, exactly.

Anna Utt: She's putting things down there. I, I say. profanity and everything. And. No, I don't think I'm sending anything like that. But I may have you been. Have you been?

Laura Schrager: Where did you work?

Anna Utt: I work for Allison first. And then the store manager, Allie.

Laura Schrager: And they. Did you work in the store?

Anna Utt: No, just a couple. Nine days when they were having a sale or something like that. I did that. I just think this house, you know, worked for his wife and the kids. I was a my that way all kids were going to be.

Laura Schrager: Did your mothers have a routine for what things you did on a certain day? Would she always wash on face? Did she have a routine like, Well.

Anna Utt: She had four times a week. I remember she worked on Saturdays and I suppose and the other day was two, three or something like that, because after Sandy food, you need to clean up, you know, and do more of school like you got.

Laura Schrager: More Sun day rest for you. If you did, you would you work lunch or something?

Anna Utt: I don't know what not it's not too often like we always spent the morning going to Sunday school because work. I don't think we ever been there, but can we go home for something? Yeah. No, no, that was more that wasn't much of a work. It was for because she'd gotten so attached and stuff like that. Like she would just sit in the car and do those things, you know?

Anna Utt: And that's the way.

Laura Schrager: Did most kids go to Sunday school?

Anna Utt: Yeah, they I can't remember. John and I ran into that from kids, man. I don't know how little very quick.

Laura Schrager: Did kids from the families around him go? Mostly.

Anna Utt: Yeah, I think so. If I. If I had my own book like this, I think some of the Sunday school classes and, one time Mrs. Morehead sent me to class, I just over 100. It was in English when we were growing up. Then, you know, imagine you 14, 15, 16, Sunday, all that class would be 18, 19.

Anna Utt: I mean, you were young and so.

Laura Schrager: Do you remember what you used to do? Much time. Do you remember what you used to do in Sunday school?

Anna Utt: It was, we used to eat, you know, the classes were all divided. You had to go in, learn your verses in the morning and then the rest that was the same. You know, you're always, you know, on the steady goes, you know, all by that time and it was a nice time it was one so still a bit more.

Anna Utt: We always had a quarter version of my book and he always, his first first year went and he would say that every time. And on Friday nights there was more, you know, where they everybody meets, they have plays, program.

Laura Schrager: Literary. It was literary.

Anna Utt: It was yeah, literary. I like that was that word for a while. Yeah, that was nice. That was fun.

Laura Schrager: Too. More than life, too.

Anna Utt: And I. Yeah, you remember they had a master media or something this time I just about that was on track, you know, where similar programs have people speak pieces or tell stories or entertain. And it was always fun.

Laura Schrager: Was that just that those were in the schools or was it just the families who was kids who went to school there would come around.

Anna Utt: Yeah, well, anybody ever must have been. Everybody was. Well, of course I remember the older people, I mean, you know, young people, but they were too much too old for school.

Laura Schrager: Do you remember any of the debates that Did they have debates and know know.

Unknown Speaker: And that was a long time ago.

Anna Utt: You know, not right now. Sometimes you can take this once in a while. You know, you can go back and think of things that happened that some special program or something.

Laura Schrager: You know, if you think of anything like that piece, script would tell. And then when I come back, I don't know what you mean. Like true, because not many people, most people have very hazy memory, like, you know, of specific things that have happened. And they sound like the.

Anna Utt: And then of course, up there they had their babies and then they had their sewing club came all of that.

Laura Schrager: Did you go to that as a kid?

Anna Utt: Not not really. Just to let me hear.

Laura Schrager: Would your mother go to now?

Anna Utt: Sometimes I my best. And I think there may be more.

Unknown Speaker: There are more and more on the market. These are like, you know, they know.

Laura Schrager: How did news of the North Korean material didn't mean much to know by war.

Anna Utt: Or a war or whatever? You can't.

Unknown Speaker: I remember when it was over where and I remember I.

Anna Utt: Folks worrying about it. But otherwise, you know, I, I can't remember the impression that I see that right there. I the 12 or 13 and 1213 year old was a you know, you don't have TV to watch and you couldn't keep up on your news like you had, you know, activity. And then the focus never went to dwell on it.

Unknown Speaker: And we always had to.

Anna Utt: I guess that's all kids really.

Laura Schrager: Really did the girls thing more than the boys and then, well.

Anna Utt: I left when I was in high school, but very good graduate from high school. Right. And she, she had all that ice and time and so she didn't had gone she music class and she kept up a new music theater thing. Now she teaches music for the last 50 years or so.

Laura Schrager: What if she could have.

Anna Utt: She had never done that. She gets music lessons maybe 15 a week or something. That sounds like much kids go to school, you know, and it had to come more easily.

Laura Schrager: And that was you. You left home right when you graduated from eighth grade.

Anna Utt: Right? Yeah, right after it. And I went on my first one I worked for was Doctor Comes.

Unknown Speaker: His wife and her and I love that.

Laura Schrager: Or were you expected to do very much?

Anna Utt: Well, not not there I was I was kept busy in the morning and then there I got my issues back and I was expecting to rest and know I didn't care for it.

Anna Utt: But then when the evening meal with time for them, when they managed to get up and go to work and.

Laura Schrager: When did you go to school?

Anna Utt: I worked for them in the summer before school started. I went to allow Alfred Hitchcock's to stay there or that was a place to stay, to pay for something.

Laura Schrager: So you never lived at home again after the fifth grade.

Anna Utt: But yes, I did. I came home then and 23 maybe. And then we walked from Princeton to school, coming graduate, my graduate home and.

Laura Schrager: What you told your story last time about when your mother got sick.

Unknown Speaker: At one point and.

Laura Schrager: She wanted you to come home and quit high school to, you know, was it important to your folks for you to go to high school for the kids to go to.

Anna Utt: School? Well, it seemed to me I know we're very tied up with hard to keep all of them in school. And the boy, you know, then we didn't care much about high school. I didn't think that that was all necessary. Maybe we could get in a long, long time without going to high school. So they kind of walked down.

Laura Schrager: John But your parents encouraged them to go. Yeah.

Anna Utt: My dad got off for finding that and boys take that to school, you know, so they wouldn't have the war. Yeah, quite a bit later, after I graduated. But they somehow picked up junior year and then they would quit except the last two youngest ones they finished.

Unknown Speaker: You know, I that.

Anna Utt: The other day that would be five more long. I don't know. You know, I think that they all quit.

Laura Schrager: And were they anxious to get out and.

Anna Utt: Make the almighty dollar that was something. It wasn't so hard to find work, you know, and that's good. I mean, now they not only have to have high school, they have to have college, and that's nice. We get old fast enough anyway, without, you know, you start to work for your kid.

Laura Schrager: How did the girls in general, were they more interested in school then? Was that true for more families than just words? Was that.

Anna Utt: You know, I, I think it was true. You know, it seemed like back then we remember a lot of boys who didn't go on, I mean, graduate from.

Laura Schrager: Well, I know what would because we talked about breakfast, you know, earlier. What was dinner like at home to, you know, when you got to school.

Anna Utt: Over at home for school, sometimes it was too or so you know, And mom would have like, all kinds of vegetables in it, you know, And then either rye or noodles or macaroni, you know, I guess it's now at the end of the lunch and then after take as long to get home from then on, you know, we can make everything else and not too on crackers.

Anna Utt: But she always had whole wheat bread.

Laura Schrager: I smells good to me just now.

Anna Utt: That was just it just seemed like that was a time of sounds like, you know, how have rushed home. Yeah.

Laura Schrager: Did you have a whole wheat cereal much. Would you eat that much.

Anna Utt: Well, my mom would cook whole wheat. Tough times.

Laura Schrager: Is that for breakfast or No?

Anna Utt: Well, sometimes we have it for breakfast. You know, she would cook it during the day, and then we would have a bowl of sugar milk before we went to bed. Or sometimes you have to leave it on your own and it would be great to get into it in the morning. And I still like that time.

Anna Utt: I have a good way of doing.

Laura Schrager: What did your father do for a living?

Anna Utt: When I first moved up there, we went back to Spangle for real farmers and the farm for, you know, and we were all known up there, Mom. And I guess and then he got them part of the section and then we got off so that some of the crew, so they retired.

Unknown Speaker: To do that.

Anna Utt: How, how long do we work? How long we go on? Well, okay. In your family, in our baby, in the winter time, it was different usually trained in French then and right try to be in the news line and then walk that little account that switches, you know, when there's no reason, stuff like that. That was right. I mean, that would be, you know, picked or I can't you know, for me that that was just a lot of kids you.

Laura Schrager: Did you used to turn up your hives and all the people would you give them books or sell them to some or did they just get calls and.

Anna Utt: I don't know. I can't remember as a little kid, but and last year they sold.

Laura Schrager: To do Farmer Karma, where again. he she was he kids she didn't do.

Anna Utt: Well And when the boys got older the young boys now older, they used to her but my dad didn't and I don't know why why he was getting high that way, but he replied to me, I'm always gone by no, I have a friend and I know he did one time because half of our so that good shot one year on time required the law to stand up there.

Anna Utt: So smart because I got him that knocked me off the on the ground was finding him because anyway it.

Laura Schrager: Happened around half a.

Anna Utt: Mile from the Harvard store post office.

Laura Schrager: Where which one.

Anna Utt: It would be, you know, and your work I mean, it was schoolhouse was just straight three quarters of a mile of this road. And it was never part of school or anything that there's so much, you know and the frost, the fruit crust in that environment keep off our roots. We didn't have to burn them, man. It's just you start at home, you know, and just because then we could go down the flag, we didn't have Hilly road up there, you know.

Laura Schrager: You know, it was.

Unknown Speaker: You know, to.

Laura Schrager: Do is to go to dances, you know, did all the kids you can.

Anna Utt: I think they had Ruby and the piano. She was one of the commanders again. And then they had they violin or maybe sometimes drums. And that was a frightening night. man. They were fun. Your dad took us.

Laura Schrager: Would your mom stay at home?

Anna Utt: Most of the time She would take us down to the temple. I mean, that was old. That was the new school for boys. Then when we got older, it was time for you to show up the next to see that would be in there. So, I mean, you know, you can always go to a dance right now, for sure.

Anna Utt: Yeah. We went to advance. It was supposed to stay in the building, but we get off at times, pop up around there to see that we, we had and of course, we didn't have everyone in there. So we like to leave the whole because you hear people talk about others and so you took a long time ago, but yet after a short time.

Laura Schrager: Were things stricter?

Anna Utt: I think so.

Anna Utt: I think it was because maybe it was just kind of round about it. You know, maybe.

Anna Utt: Hi, how are you? Yes, fine. You know, this is my first time. Got involved. And Sam.

Laura Schrager: Schrager. Yeah. Okay.

Anna Utt: right, Right. Now she's painting. So camera.